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Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by Hackbraten on Sunday June 05, 2022 @08:52AM (#31630541)
> Moore and his white noise team — yes, he has five employees and contractors

I assume their duties are mostly mundane things, such as accounting, marketing, vendor relations, and app (store) maintenance.

But what I really like to imagine is that those five employees are cryptographers, and that their duty is to painstakingly work on new secure white noise generation algorithms in order to push the envelope in the white noise industry.

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by andrewallbright on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:50AM (#31630975)
I like to imagine white noise listeners would be like wine connoisseurs in your scenario.

"Mmmmmm, this one features a nice static base noise livivified by a hint of perlin noise."

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by hetspookjee on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:52AM (#31631492)
Well, honestly there's a world of difference between the noise generated by Pete Swanson versus Merzbow for example. I can't handle Merzbow at all, but Pete Swanson's A&Ox0 I truly enjoy. For example, my most listend song over 2021 (>60 times) is Limited Space by an alias of Pete Swanson; Yellow Swans.

Than there's a track like Treetop Drive 3 from Deathprod that you truly notice when it starts, and when it ends. Other than that it is phenomal in drowning out everything on the other end.

Windy & Carl also make some great tracks, one of my favorites being Antarctica. I've noticed while sharing these tracks that it is a very personnel thing, so odds being that you share my favorites are remarkebly small, though I do find it a very interesting genre to explore and wonder about - what makes this good versus the other?

With less noise and a seeming one-off is Virginia Waveform from Pan-America, though quire more melodic already

I have a curated playlist of noise tracks that I very frequently get back to. Here's my playlist for anyone that is interested: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0srqN53JGNoqEN3vzoviJU

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by kiritanpo on Sunday June 05, 2022 @12:47PM (#31632629)
Wow, this is the first time I see someone with musical tastes so close to mine. Like you said, a lot of this music feels very personal. So this feels weird now, like meeting a long lost twin. I could have made that playlist.

I was never really able to pinpoint what makes this music good to me. It has to be a mix of the actual sound, texture and repetitive nature of the drone.

Have you heard the collaboration between Fennesz and Jim O'Rourke? https://christianfenneszjimorourke.bandcamp.com/track/i-just...

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by hetspookjee on Sunday June 05, 2022 @12:52PM (#31632686)
Ohhh this must be marvelous and can't wait to check it out! I really appreciate this tune from Fennesz - Tom but have a really hard time with both the brevity of the tune, and finding similar styles.

https://open.spotify.com/track/2iHvSdltCRLlCVYAjRxLNj

On another note. Do you know the project The Dead Texan? its another alias from the artist behind Stars of the Lid and it's an album that just seems to get better with every listen.

Especially the Aegina Airlines is very evoking, though not directly up the alley of Noise I'd say.

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by bbu on Sunday June 05, 2022 @11:03AM (#31631584)
I expected a playlist of Rick astley songs. I guess there’s a whole form of „music“ I am not aware of.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by renewiltord on Sunday June 05, 2022 @11:11AM (#31631674)
This is fascinating. A whole genre I cannot appreciate at all and yet a genuine fan. Amazing.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by hetspookjee on Sunday June 05, 2022 @11:53AM (#31632088)
I find it fascinating as well, especially how I can scroll through a recommended ambient playlist provided by Spotify and only pick 1-2 songs from the lot. And on further exploration I often think to myself - damn, this is some good ambient, let me add it to my list - only to find I've added it already. Kinda proving to me that it's not just circumstantial appreciation but something that stays for a while I guess.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by acchow on Sunday June 05, 2022 @12:25PM (#31632387)
> Limited Space by an alias of Pete Swanson; Yellow Swans

This is my first time listening to this "genre" of music and I love it!

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by gwern on Sunday June 05, 2022 @01:19PM (#31632933)
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by ineedasername on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:43AM (#31631415)
"Yes yes, of course that's a nice balance, but I do rather prefer mine to have just a hint of oak leaf crackle, like those that remain at the end of the Fall"
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by gebruikersnaam on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:28AM (#31631286)
It's only white noise if it's generated by the Sennheiser algorithm, otherwise it's just random static.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by m0llusk on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:58AM (#31631544)
The Haters usually take a microphone connected to a distortion box and scrape it around the surface of a textured plastic suitcase. The result is clearly white noise and easily differentiated from the all too common pink noise one tends to hear nowadays.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by saagarjha on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:30AM (#31630814)
Well, I only listen to white noise that fills buffers that are allocated using new and lovingly filled with an artisanal memcpy.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by afandian on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:04AM (#31631102)
I hope you zero the memory first! Otherwise you can hear the ghosting on good headphones.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by bigyikes on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:21AM (#31631218)
Ghosting problems are why I refuse to listen to anything on machines with RAM older than DDR4.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by thematrixturtle on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:49AM (#31631463)
Surely you mean newer? The quantum tunneling artifacts on modern dense memory are simply ghastly, which why I stick to hand-wound magnetic core memory.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by mrexroad on Monday June 06, 2022 @03:13AM (#31637975)
Only way to go is w/ either magnetic core memory or isolinear chips.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by systemvoltage on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:55AM (#31631512)
Expert here (degree in engineering), Analog core wounded memory or gtfo.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by afandian on Sunday June 05, 2022 @12:22PM (#31632357)
I guess that comes at the significant penalty of lower bit rate. Still, it does sound warmer.

(Seriously, I wonder what the rate would be?)

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by mellavora on Sunday June 05, 2022 @01:12PM (#31632864)
WTF? Doesn't anyone just reverse bias a transistor anymore? Who needs memory?
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by bob1029 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:51AM (#31630991)
To be fair, there are a large variety of "noises" in this arena that people have certain preferences for over others.

Developing an algorithm that generates something that sounds very good to humans requires a bit more than simple math and entropy.

"White noise" is just the entrance to a very large rabbit hole.

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by greatquux on Sunday June 05, 2022 @11:11AM (#31631673)
I’m listening to Metal Machine Music right now , feedback may be another rabbit hole next door
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by gumby on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:24AM (#31631253)
This does suggest a moderately interesting application: a sleep tracker could provide feedback to selectively alter the composition of the background noise to improve sleep quality. It could vary the background noise based on your sleep phase and other ambient noise (sirens, pets, etc). If you wear a tracker while awake, such as an apple watch, it could even figure out how to start based on your activity level just before going to bed.
Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by ineedasername on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:38AM (#31631376)
>But what I really like to imagine is that those five employees are cryptographers

Or may NSA workers running the modern equivalent of number stations.

Re:Spotify podcasters are making $18k a month with nothing b... by bryanrasmussen on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:56AM (#31631044)
>new secure white noise generation algorithms in order to push the envelope in the white noise industry.

written in BrainFuck I assume https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585371