Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food and energy costs rise

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by simonh on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:23AM (#31621379)

Azoic is a tiny group relative to the whole population that barely registers as a factor in Ukrainian politics. Using them as a reason to invade the nation of Ukraine is a ridiculous excuse. How can a government be nazis if their leader is Jewish? It’s contrived conspiracy theory nonsense.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by ajsnigrutin on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:25AM (#31621417)

Weren't they integrated into the national army?

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by yakshaving_jgt on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:44AM (#31621701)

No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie.

It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army.

Several of your comments here are regurgitations of Kremlin propaganda. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by unmole on Saturday June 04, 2022 @12:48PM (#31622554)

> No. They were integrated into the National Guard, which is form of gendarmerie.

> It is not the same as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which includes the army.

This is a bizzare distinction to emphasize. The National Guard is an armed unit. During war, their role is exactly the same as the armed forces.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by yakshaving_jgt on Saturday June 04, 2022 @01:16PM (#31622872)

I think it’s worth pointing out inaccuracies like this when they are shared by someone who is clearly engaging in whataboutery and the spread of misinformation across several comments in this thread.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by unmole on Saturday June 04, 2022 @01:22PM (#31622937)

I really don't think that's productive. Nitpicking like this only makes it seem like the argument is mostly correct except for minor details.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by ajsnigrutin on Saturday June 04, 2022 @01:34PM (#31623054)

Is it really whataboutery if we're not any better than the russians.... and meanwhile destroying our own economies while not really hurting russia that much?

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by simonh on Monday June 06, 2022 @01:32AM (#31637485)

The Russians have been shown to have slaughtered civilians, indiscriminately bombed and shelled residential areas, looted, raped and abducted people on massive scale.

What do you mean by ‘not any better than the Russians’? What has Azov or anyone else in Ukraine been doing that rises the the same level?

Russia has been promoting and funding racist and white supremacist groups just as bad all over Europe. The only thing about Azov that’s different is they are anti Russian.

I know Azov are an unpleasant lot and have distributed hate propaganda and harassed people, but as part of the national guard they are under military command and discipline. Furthermore politically speaking they were utterly insignificant and got absolutely nowhere in elections. The whole ‘fighting nazis’ line is utter garbage.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by 5e92cb50239222b on Saturday June 04, 2022 @11:36AM (#31621575)

They were. Most of the right-wing elements (there weren't that many of them as Kremlin propaganda would like you to believe) were purged as part of this process, or left the battalion themselves.

There's a decent article on this (from a strongly pro-Ukraine publication) that expounds on this theme in a relatively neutral way (IMHO). The sad thing it's in Russian, but should be readable through the magic of google translate if you're interested enough.

https://meduza.io/feature/2022/04/17/ot-bandery-do-azova-otv...

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Turkey’s inflation soars to 73%, a 23-year high, as food ... by somenameforme on Saturday June 04, 2022 @12:21PM (#31622208)

This [1] is an article from Time in 2018. You can find other countless similar articles elsewhere. You'll find that the narrative before and after the Ukraine war took an extremely hard 180 to the point of absurdity. Just one segment from the article:

"After the worst such [anti-Islam terror] attack in recent years—the massacre of 51 people in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019—an arm of the Azov movement helped distribute the terrorist’s raving manifesto, in print and online, seeking to glorify his crimes and inspire others to follow. .... It might seem ironic for this hub of white nationalists to be situated in Ukraine. At one point in 2019, it was the only nation in the world, apart from Israel, to have a Jewish President and a Jewish Prime Minister. Far-right politicians failed to win a single seat in parliament in the most recent elections. But in the context of the white-supremacist movement globally, Azov has no rivals on two important fronts: its access to weapons and its recruiting power."

There's also stuff like [2] which is a freedom-of-information act report from the Department of Homeland Security. They're concerned about the fact that "Ukrainian nationalist groups including the Azo[v] Movement are actively recruiting racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist-white supremacists (RMVE-WS) to join various neo-Nazi volunteer battalions in the war against Russia".

This whole thing is becoming increasingly absurd where the information warfare is gradually moving from propaganda to 1984.

[1] - https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-right-movement-facebook/

[2] - https://propertyofthepeople.org/document-detail/?doc-id=2202...

[ Parent | on HN ]