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Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by oceanplexian on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:36AM (#31596171)
> The cartridge Toyota has developed manages to do this for 5.5kg. Not bad, but not a paradigm shift, considering you have to build a logistics network to refill the cartridges.

It may not a paradigm shift for cars but definitely a game-changer for aviation. Right now, there are a few experimental light aircraft powered by batteries can manage 20-30 minutes in the air. Quadruple that and you have something that's actually practical transportation.

Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by protomyth on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:58AM (#31596476)
AirBus has already indicated that hydrogen is their future for sustainability. At least one startup has a plan to have off-site (somewhere other than the airport) filled containers that are plugged into the aircraft instead of a normal refueling.
Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by Robotbeat on Thursday June 02, 2022 @12:29PM (#31596980)
Electric aircraft have demonstrated flying for over an hour, and several hours is feasible.

No point in these compressed hydrogen things for airplanes. The weight is just too high. Hydrogen aviation only makes sense with cryogenic hydrogen storage IMHo, and only for very long duration

Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by Dylan16807 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @02:22PM (#31598645)
> Electric aircraft have demonstrated flying for over an hour, and several hours is feasible.

With massive downsides. Sure, liquid hydrogen probably makes a lot more sense for a plane than these things. But I don't think "only for very long duration" is true at all.

Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by jazzyjackson on Thursday June 02, 2022 @02:29PM (#31598757)
> The weight is just too high.

did OP not just point to a 4x increase in energy density?

Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by Robotbeat on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:28PM (#31599459)
This is not a 4x increase in energy density. It’s functionally the same as high end lithium ion.
Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by gamblor956 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @02:07PM (#31598439)
And yet aviation technology professionals who presumably know more than either of us have decided that hydrogen is the future for general commercial aviation, not electric craft.
Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by Robotbeat on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:34PM (#31599516)
I am an aviation technology professional.
Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by gamblor956 on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:52AM (#31642044)
Clearly not, if you believe that lithium-based batteries have anywhere near the energy capacity for large aircraft.