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Re:The US “labor shortage” is just a wage shortage (2021) by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @09:12AM (#31581320)
There are two conflicting business cultures. One is genuine profit culture, and one is an imitation of profit culture which is really about hierarchy and status.

Most businesses are balanced somewhere between the two extremes, although I suspect in the US businesses tend more towards hierarchy.

The "labor shortage" is a symptom of a hierarchy culture that has become too rigid. Workers are supposed to know their place - which is at the bottom of the hierarchy - and are not supposed to expect a more equal power distribution.

The fact that some businesses would rather die than relax their grip on power differentials shows how dysfunctional and self-harming this culture is.

Re:The US “labor shortage” is just a wage shortage (2021) by BlargMcLarg on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @09:30AM (#31581538)
Anecdotally the only place I heard doing the opposite "consistently" is Japan, and I highly suspect these reports are still select blue moon cases. Cases where executives themselves took the hit to keep the ICs at their current level, or at the very least share the burden equally.

Everywhere else, I've heard both a near universal reluctance for executive types to take any kind of pay cut ("we can only go up"), and a near universal reluctance for anyone higher in the hierarchy to earn less than their subordinates, no matter how rare their skillset. Which also creates the massive bureaucracy problem where everyone wants to go into some form of management or pseudo-management, and no one is able to prove whether this was at all beneficial for the company as a whole.

I even had a personal experience where HR was describing a new career advancement strategy, confirmed developers were paid under market rate, but bluntly said "no, this doesn't mean we'll increase your salaries right away". I was more surprised people in the room didn't react with disgust at this obvious "haha we got you by the balls" move.

Re:The US “labor shortage” is just a wage shortage (2021) by urthor on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @10:48PM (#31590707)
In Japan it's very, very important to maintain the appearance of such things.

What actually happened is more complicated. There are few traditions of a huge press expose.

The executive MIGHT get a pay cut. Or they might take a pay cut, but the company ALSO steers a fat discretionary contract to the CEO's brother in law, with a different last name.

Not a uniquely Japanese stitch up, but that's how it's done.

Or, they might be perfectly honest. And outside appearances are exactly what happened.

The tl;dr of doing business in Japan is, you NEVER know the full story. Unless a personal relationship clues you in. Personal relationships are E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G. Particularly because everyone lives in Tokyo.

Re:The US “labor shortage” is just a wage shortage (2021) by FredPret on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @11:45AM (#31583568)
Thank goodness for the free market - may it rid us of these organizations that love bureaucracy over results
Re:The US “labor shortage” is just a wage shortage (2021) by lobocinza on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @12:49PM (#31584613)
The government always come to rescue.