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Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by forum_ghost on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @12:39AM (#31578155)
>I wouldn’t be where I am if remote work was the norm

why not? It's probably just as likely you wouldn't be where you are if your several pivotal points in life went only slightly different.

Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by vicda on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @01:25AM (#31578438)
All of the pivotal points in my career came from serendipitous moments that happened with coworkers outside of my core team at the office/at lunch/at holiday parties. That kind of natural cross pollination is near dead when working fully remote.
Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by prawn on Thursday June 02, 2022 @12:16AM (#31591280)
I don't work a typical job but I do operate in a space where in-person interactions can create opportunities. I think you can emulate a bit of that aspect by being proactive with incidental communications. Obviously nothing forceful, but just staying friendly with people - asking questions, offering help, showing interest, building general rapport.
Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by vicda on Sunday June 05, 2022 @08:59PM (#31636348)
How do you build rapport with people outside of your job responsibilities? Randomly sending out "Hey, how's it going?" messages to everyone?

Watercooler/lunch/coffee break social interactions are all but dead when working remotely.

Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by prawn on Sunday June 05, 2022 @09:14PM (#31636441)
Email them after something has been launched: "Hey - design of that new contact form looks great!" Find little excuses to be complimentary. Or if there's slim, existing rapport, ask a couple of people for feedback. If you don't get much in return, try others.
Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by vicda on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:16PM (#31636739)
Thanks for the response! Kneejerkingly that feels weird, but that's surely because I've never been apart of cold emails/messages like that. I guess I just have to make that part of my new normal.
Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by prawn on Sunday June 05, 2022 @10:43PM (#31636855)
I think a key is not to try or push too hard. It's lighthearted and casual. You're not measuring any attempt for success or getting despondent if no one cares - you're just being sociable and ultimately should eventually make connections or develop rapport. Unless you are seriously unlikeable, people will remember those that give them feedback or are nice to them without being transparent in trying to get something for themselves.

And if you're not naturally sociable, convince yourself that this is the type of person you have chosen to be. "I'm the type of person that makes these small efforts."

I always think of it in basketball/coaching terms. If there's a non-shooter at the top of the key and the coaching instruction is to sag off them, don't react instinctively and rush out to defend. Just stick to the process and the odds are that over time the smart method plays to your advantage. Don't get upset if people don't reply (they might be busy, for one thing) and don't overwhelm them with replies if they do.

Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by vicda on Sunday June 05, 2022 @11:50PM (#31637106)
I'm very social in person, it's just the "cold email" part of it that is off putting for me. There's no observable social norm around this from my perspective. You can be a wallfly at an event and pick up norms, but you can't do that will chat/email. Maybe it's a generational gap thing, but the only times I get that type of interaction is from vendors who want something, group emails, or it's from someone I already know quite well.
Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by forum_ghost on Thursday June 02, 2022 @08:43AM (#31594082)
The same works in person too.

You make your own “serendipity”.

Some just win a small lottery at times, and don’t even realize it.

Re:Elon Musk Tesla email: Remote work is no longer acceptable by spoils19 on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @03:25AM (#31579089)
All of the pivotal points in my career came from delivering quality software, on time and under budget. That kind of work cannot happen with the constant distraction of in-office work.