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Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by dc-programmer on Sunday May 29, 2022 @05:13PM (#31552928)
I see his name as a heuristic for Thiel adjacent content, which is useful for deciding which links to skip
Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by systemvoltage on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:19PM (#31555172)
Thiel is an independent thinker and it is much needed in a rather strange and extremely conformist society. He is unpopular by definition.
Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by dc-programmer on Monday May 30, 2022 @10:41AM (#31559500)
I don’t care for his beliefs at all but that is not what my petty protest is about.

He is an incarnation in the flesh of state corporatism and a anti-democracy activist. That I can not stomach

Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by systemvoltage on Monday May 30, 2022 @03:39PM (#31562813)
> He is an incarnation in the flesh of state corporatism and a anti-democracy activist. That I can not stomach

I couldn't see a shred of this. Can you point to a specific example that influenced your stance? (direct source). Thiel has a combination of liberal, liberatarian and conservative views. He strongly opposes authoritarianism of any kind and promotes individualism.

From this clip, he describes himself as an individualist which is literally the opposite of any authoritarian/collectivist society: https://youtu.be/YK3Tzx-S264?t=54

And him directly addressing Democracy which your stance seems uninformed:

> In a Democracy, if 51% of population believes then it is better, there is a certain bias towards majoritarianism, if you have 70% of the population that believes in something, then it is even more true. But if you go from 51% to 70% to 99%, then you've gone from Democracy to North Korea. At what point do we go from wisdom of crowds to madness of crowds?

https://youtu.be/YK3Tzx-S264?t=314

Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by dc-programmer on Monday May 30, 2022 @05:33PM (#31563864)
Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by systemvoltage on Monday May 30, 2022 @07:26PM (#31564689)
Try again?
Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by dc-programmer on Monday May 30, 2022 @07:35PM (#31564735)
I do not feel obligated to argue with you. If you hold someone in esteem who questioned female suffrage due to its detrimental effects to libertarianism we will never see eye to eye.
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Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by systemvoltage on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:26PM (#31555204)
Naive responses like this either do not understand him or listens to mainstream opinion too much. It is neither intellectual, nor inquisitive. I disagree with him very much but there is no doubt he is an independent thinker.

Here is a more charitable criticism of Thiel: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...

Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by nagestri on Monday May 30, 2022 @08:48AM (#31558428)
Well that is just foolish. I am an atheist but I find Catholic Bishop Robert Barron on Girard fascinating and great at explaining Girard.

Girard is one of the great theologians and a historic figure. Thiel is not a historical figure.

Re:Modern football through the lens of René Girard by dc-programmer on Monday May 30, 2022 @10:38AM (#31559443)
I actually read The Scapegoat and liked it. I’m not sure he could convince me of his thesis due to the unfalsifiable nature of his arguments; but he is an interesting thinker.

However, due to the high probability that blog-like content mentioning Girard shares Thiel’s ethos, I am obliged to pass on principal.