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Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by DaviNunes on Sunday May 29, 2022 @02:56PM (#31551764)
I wonder how difficult/efficient would it be to use this tech to design a bitcoin mining ASIC.
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by ttul on Sunday May 29, 2022 @03:07PM (#31551877)
Having failed to launch a mining ASIC company in 2012, my only comment would be that the Caravel 130nm process will not be power-competitive with commercial mining chip. It would be a fun educational project, however.
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by lekevicius on Sunday May 29, 2022 @03:58PM (#31552352)
I'm curious about this question, even though it's a bit off-topic: how likely is it that an entity (commercial or governmental) could "secretly" produce enough mining hardware to consistently have 51% of network's hash power?
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by ntoskrnl on Sunday May 29, 2022 @04:28PM (#31552595)
The biggest mining pools have known identities[1]. If some unknown group started mining and the hashrate jumped 50%, it would draw lots of attention. There's no way it could be done secretly. A more likely attack would be a government bribing or coercing a few of the biggest mining pools to manipulate their blocks.

[1]: https://btc.com/stats/pool

Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by IncRnd on Sunday May 29, 2022 @04:33PM (#31552634)
How unlikely is it for that not to have already happened?
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by r0n22 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @05:53PM (#31553245)
How did you determine that it was not viable? Anymore information you could provide?
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by ttul on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:31AM (#31566675)
Bitcoin mining reduces to a process of energy conversion. Electricity goes in and money comes out. The latest and greatest mining gear is much more profitable than older gear. As more people buy the new stuff, they are able to run more calculations with the same amount of energy. This pushes up the cost of mining for everyone, since more hashes per second are happening for the same energy input.

Those on less efficient gear eventually get pushed out of the market because they can’t make a profit.

A 5nm node is many many times more power efficient than 130nm. There’s no contest. An ASIC with that kind of power draw would not be a profitable mining processor.

Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by AussieWog93 on Sunday May 29, 2022 @06:47PM (#31553646)
Not GP, but this isn't something you'd need to calculate. 130nm transistors are so much larger, with so much higher power consumption to modern 7nm transistors, that it'd be like comparing the fuel consumption of a motorbike to a school bus.
Re:Make Your Own Chips for Free by Stevvo on Sunday May 29, 2022 @06:01PM (#31553307)
Bitmain are using the latest process nodes for their ASICs.