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Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by MrAwesome on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:33PM (#31536811)
It seems like there has been a lot of buzz lately about the importance of reducing light exposure at night and the impact it has on your health. I can certainly speak to it anecdotally - getting a nice pair of blackout curtains and putting electrical tape over the electronics LEDs in my bedroom seemed to do wonders for my sleep.

A quick search for sources led me to this article, which has a nice collection of links to studies for those interested in learning more: https://www.sleepfoundation.org/bedroom-environment/light-an...

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by abletonlive on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:00PM (#31536962)
I'm not convinced about blackout curtains being healthy. Why is it that when you go camping you feel so refreshed and good when the sun comes up and wakes you up?

Did our far ancestors use blackout curtains? How did they deal with the sun waking them up everyday? My guess is that it's the optimal way to wake up actually.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by epgui on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:52PM (#31537196)
Your far ancestors didn't have to deal with light pollution and all sorts of city lights. I don't know where you live, but a lot of people live in cities, where this is a problem. If you live in the countryside or in very small cities, you may not have the same problem.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by hammyhavoc on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:06PM (#31536983)
Our ancestors used to go to bed earlier and wake up in the middle of the night for a while before going back to sleep. Our schedules and concept of 'normal' (versus 'natural') has changed drastically.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by shagie on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:36PM (#31537114)
For more info on the two sleeps:

The forgotten medieval habit of 'two sleeps' -- https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieva... and the HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29886907

And Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biphasic_and_polyphasic_sleep

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by ptato on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:06PM (#31536982)
Street lights are too bright for sleep where I live, and I need to wake up with an alarm anyway so no waking up with the sun for me. It's a no brainer!
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by rale00 on Friday May 27, 2022 @11:43PM (#31537417)
I set up an automation to slowly open my curtains when I want to wake up. It's a much nicer way to wake up than an alarm.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by MrAwesome on Saturday May 28, 2022 @10:28AM (#31540587)
Yeah, as other commenters have said - the curtains are for bright city lights I can't turn off.

Personally, I have a simple electrical timer set to turn on a bright sunlight bulb at 6:30am, and I open the curtains during the day.

You're right on the money about camping and how it affects the body, in my experience. Light obviously isn't the only factor in camping feeling good - but I've also been reading lately that light exposure (and possibly direct sun exposure?) during the day is quite good for you.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by aksss on Saturday May 28, 2022 @02:26AM (#31538065)
Probably the fact that you’re breathing more oxygen when asleep while camping, vs a high CO2 level in your home bedroom.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by layer8 on Saturday May 28, 2022 @11:14AM (#31540932)
I use a Philips wake-up light for that.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by aaaaaaaaata on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:56PM (#31537211)
> Why is it that when you go camping you feel so refreshed and good when the sun comes up and wakes you up?

Because alcohol induces REM sleep?

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by stephenhuey on Friday May 27, 2022 @11:10PM (#31537269)
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by aaaaaaaaata on Saturday May 28, 2022 @09:09AM (#31540050)
It can both induce REM, and reduce the length of total REM, yes.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by rootusrootus on Friday May 27, 2022 @11:15PM (#31537291)
The worst sleep I ever get is when I drink alcohol too close to bedtime.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by beebmam on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:49PM (#31536894)
I've done the same thing and it has significantly made me feel comfier at night.

There are other ways to improve your sleep quality as well! Don't use any electronic devices 30 minutes before bed or while in bed. Meditation before bed with deep slow breathing. A nice warm bath or shower. Sleeping on your side if you can.

For me, none of these things helped when I was really struggling with sleep several years ago. It turns out I had severe sleep apnea! If you aren't sleeping well, talk to your doctor and see a sleep specialist. I swear by my CPAP. Both my waking and sleeping life is infinitely better with it treating my severe sleep apnea.

Don't suffer in silence. If you're feeling unwell physically or mentally, talk to a medical professional. So much harm can be minimized and sometimes your ailment can be totally cured!

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by diob on Friday May 27, 2022 @11:03PM (#31537240)
Plus one to if you're falling asleep in meetings, classes, driving, etc. please get checked for sleep apnea.

I spent too many years thinking that was normal, along with daily migraines.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by bozhark on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:39PM (#31536839)
This makes me feel less crazy for the black electrical tape on all the LEDs.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by hnick on Saturday May 28, 2022 @08:46AM (#31539902)
There are little semi-translucent black stickers you can get called lightdims or something, I use those. Doesn't fully block the light but makes it very faint but still visible which I like. Sometimes you need a couple. Does not help for things like routers which have a glaring sun inside them that reflects off the white plastic and blasts out of every single ventilation hole.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by layer8 on Saturday May 28, 2022 @11:16AM (#31540942)
https://www.lightdims.com/

I use them as well.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by 29083011397778 on Saturday May 28, 2022 @12:49AM (#31537694)
The worst part is (IIRC) that blue LEDs are cheaper for the OEM, but worst in a dark room.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by enchiridion on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:56PM (#31536932)
Is it just me or does a blindfold seem easier?
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by mckirk on Friday May 27, 2022 @10:10PM (#31537002)
At least in my case I have to go to quite some lengths so that a sleeping mask doesn't slip off during the night; I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing while asleep to constantly work them off my head, but unless I really tighten them down, they don't help me much. Blackout curtains are much simpler.