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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by bko on Thursday May 26, 2022 @09:46AM (#31518265)
I never found this argument convincing. There are many differences between Australia and the US. It's like saying "American does X and is wealthy and relatively not corrupt, Mexico should just do X". This is the whole "bring democracy to the Middle East" argument repackaged.
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by cuteboy19 on Thursday May 26, 2022 @10:58AM (#31519136)
This whole thread is a just list of people eliminating confounding variables

> Social media

>> All countries have that

> Violent video games

>> All other countries have that

> Media reporting on violence

>> All other countries have that

> Mental illness

>> Other countries have it worse

> Lack of Religion

>> Some other countries have that

At some point we are left with just one variable that is different from these other countries

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by bko on Thursday May 26, 2022 @02:12PM (#31521624)
US is 59th in murder rate. A lot of these countries have all those things + restrictive gun laws. You can't have a theory and just arbitrarily section off over 50% of countries and test your theory on that subset

https://www.factsinstitute.com/ranking/countries-by-murder-r...

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by cuteboy19 on Thursday May 26, 2022 @03:43PM (#31522555)
The other 58 are either extremely poor or in an actual war/insurgency. I don't deny that poverty and war cause violence but the US does not have those variables
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by justanorherhack on Thursday May 26, 2022 @11:21AM (#31519451)
Lots of other countries have firearms and don’t have school shootings. Switzerland and Israel come to mind.
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by nothingisbad on Thursday May 26, 2022 @01:00PM (#31520730)
Per wikipedia[0], the US has an estimated 120 guns per 100 citizens. Switzerland, the number is 27.6, Israel the number is 6.7.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by mrguyorama on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:17PM (#31520187)
Both those countries require everyone to experience military service, where such a gun is used as a tool to kill. There's much less of a "gun culture" in those countries because guns aren't cool, everyone has used one, everyone is familiar, everyone understands what they are for, namely protection of the country as a whole.

If the alternative to making guns much harder to access is to conscript everyone in the country for a few years to try and beat the gun culture out of them, good freakin luck