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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by fredgrott on Thursday May 26, 2022 @08:23AM (#31517417)
Some points of interest:

  -60 percent or more US states have no gun registration, I know as I live in Indiana which changed to a no gun registration state despite objections from their own citizens and cops.

  -Among religious right guns are seen as a male status symbols

  -Can we cure this economically by requiring liability insurance in addition to gun registration?  It work by, if you have a past history of danger signs then you would be accessed via insurance companies the largest liability insurance price of owning a gun. Similar to vehicle registration and liability insurance
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by ryathal on Thursday May 26, 2022 @09:02AM (#31517798)
Liability insurance just means rich people have guns. the people who would most benefit from guns for self defense, low income people in high crime areas, would be excluded from gun ownership due to excessive costs. The police also aren't the answer as they have no duty to actually protect you, and have shown repeatedly that they will simply wait for overwhelming force while a shooter is killing people.

Gun registrations just tell the government, or anyone who can access the registration where to get guns. Registrations don't stop anything and only serve to create more criminals from otherwise innocent people if they don't file paperwork on time. Also, in the U.S. any form of government list of people is heavily suspect regardless of guns, a vast majority of people simply don't want anything that can let the government easily track them. Social Security is barely tolerated for keeping massive amounts of seniors from starving to death, even then the creation of the SSN was hugely controversial.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by renaudg on Friday May 27, 2022 @01:00PM (#31531913)
> the people who would most benefit from guns for self defense, low income people in high crime areas

In fact nobody benefits. IIRC owning a gun increases your odds of being shot dead by 3-4x.

> Registrations don't stop anything and only serve to create more criminals from otherwise innocent people if they don't file paperwork on time.

It works everywhere else in the world.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by mrits on Thursday May 26, 2022 @08:31AM (#31517502)
Introducing a brand new heavily funded lobby to make sure guns stay on the streets. Brilliant.
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by idiotsecant on Thursday May 26, 2022 @08:30AM (#31517482)
I am deeply supportive of the second amendment but liability insurance for guns seems like a fantastic idea to me. Love in rural Montana and own a long rifle for hunting? You insurance is quite cheap. Live in Brooklyn, are 17 years old, and own a handgun? Quite expensive.

Unfortunately like automobiles all this would due is punish the honest people. The people who most should have this insurance just wouldn't buy it.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by refurb on Thursday May 26, 2022 @08:55AM (#31517728)
I know plenty of people driving around in CA without insurance.

People may have issues with the NRA, but their basic stance - enforcing existing gun laws - seems like a reasonable start. We haven’t even met that threshold yet.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by mrguyorama on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:32PM (#31520370)
Taking the NRA at face value is absurd. When actually innocent gun owners get shot and killed by police for no reason, they are routinely silent.

They don't care about gun rights, they care about the stock price of arms manufacturers.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by pnutjam on Thursday May 26, 2022 @11:16AM (#31519377)
It would make it easier to get guns off the street if you could confiscate uninsured weapons and hold them until proof of insurance.
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by FireBeyond on Thursday May 26, 2022 @12:47PM (#31520551)
> Among religious right guns are seen as a male status symbols

There's a (already fairly 'culty') church here where every adult male wears a pistol to church.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by injb on Thursday May 26, 2022 @11:06AM (#31519235)
>>I know as I live in Indiana which changed to a no gun registration state

When was there ever gun registration in Indiana?

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by pnutjam on Thursday May 26, 2022 @11:15AM (#31519358)
Never, he means "constitutional carry" which is also a (tm) term from the NRA that really means, no permit needed to carry guns around. The police love this by the way (not).