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Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by rajin444 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @06:41PM (#31511746)
> too easily obtained, to too many citizens who have not been properly indoctrinated with a sense of civic responsibility

Banning guns is not the answer. Instilling that civic responsibility is - the benefits are astronomical.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by Supermancho on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:29PM (#31513582)
It's believed that the US has 120 guns per 100 people and there are 7 guns per 100 people in Israel[1]. Israel has 10% of the number of gun-related-deaths (reported) that the US has, with some VERY heavy gun control laws - which routinely gets more strict[2].

What's interesting is that the number of people who take a shot at certain political figures is very low in the US, despite politics being so deeply concerning to so many adults. This feels like an adolescent/young-adult problem that's come to light. If there was a force like the Secret Service/FBI that cracked down on a WHIFF of threatening schools and the media coverage was blacked out for a month, we might see progress without getting mired in a gun control debate that won't be solved in our lifetime.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r... [2] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-s-new-pu...

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by xvector on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:39PM (#31513692)
Do you see school shootings happening in Europe?

Banning guns is clearly the answer. There will always be psychopaths, and these people will not care about "civic responsibility." The only thing that can be done is to restrict their access to guns.

Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by quantumwannabe on Thursday May 26, 2022 @01:36AM (#31515008)
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by xvector on Thursday May 26, 2022 @02:07AM (#31515202)
There are orders of magnitude more in the US.
Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri... by quantumwannabe on Thursday May 26, 2022 @02:35AM (#31515359)
Please don't move the goalposts. You said:

>Do you see school shootings happening in Europe?

Implying that school shootings don't happen in Europe. I then listed 20 school shootings that have occurred in Europe over the last 20 years and your response is to claim that there are "orders of magnitude more [school shootings] in the US".

"Orders" implies that there is at least 100 times more (as a single order is 10 times more) school shootings in the US than in Europe. That is also not true, even counting events such as "Two boys, aged 11 and 14-years-old were shot in the parking lot of the Searles Elementary School around 1 am" and "An individual who was not a student accidentally shot himself in the leg in the parking lot of Glades Central High School" as school shootings, which Wikipedia and most media do. Even with all the stat padding, there are have only been 365 "school shootings" in the US over the last 22 years (i.e. a single order of magnitude more than my partial list of European school shootings); the actual number of school shootings by the common definition is in the same ballpark as Europe.