Ask HN: What game do you wish existed?

Re:Ask HN: What game do you wish existed? by BolexNOLA on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @04:10PM (#31509873)

I’m not sure how WoW isn’t/wasn’t just ticking off boxes? That’s all MMORPG’s ever basically. “Go here, kill boars, bring me 5 of their tusks. By the way it’s a 25% drop rate so really you’re killing ~20. Oh and they’re often by themselves across a large area. Oh and other players need the same amount too so you’re competing for the kills. Oh and there are baby boars harassing you that don’t count. Oh and there’s no quest marker until you’re mini map can see it so it’s going to take you 10min of wandering around a featureless field before you know you’re in their spawn area.

As obnoxious as I’m being, the thrust of basically any MMORPG is grinding hours of boring tasks to get minutes of awesome time with the fruits of your labor. That’s how they make you stick around - roadblock after roadblock after roadblock. You remove the grind (d3 auction house) and you remove your players.

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Re:Ask HN: What game do you wish existed? by astrange on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @05:22PM (#31510746)

FFXIV doesn’t really have mandatory grind. They instead make the main story actually good (better than most other FF games) and so people will buy the expansion packs even if they don’t stick around every other month.

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Re:Ask HN: What game do you wish existed? by BolexNOLA on Thursday May 26, 2022 @09:31AM (#31518113)

I agree but there’s a reason I didn’t say “literally every MMORPG does this.” FFXIV definitely stands out as a notable exception. SE is also big enough that they don’t need FFXIV to generate insane revenue to justify its existence, and good on them for making good use of that. It’s a profitable title that has also built them a lot of good will as a company, good will that’s been sorely needed lately.

My point is, most MMORPGs depend on giving you relatively simple tasks but finding ways to make them take three hours.

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