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Re:The great junk transfer is coming by NickBusey on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @08:43AM (#31503718)
The article you linked I agree with almost fully, nice work.

The only part I have issue with is when the teacher says “we fix things by "switching them off and on again"” as if that’s a bad thing. I see and agree with your actual point, but a power cycle is generally step one for almost all debugging.

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by nonrandomstring on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @09:49AM (#31504475)
> the teacher says “we fix things by "switching them off and on again"” as if that’s a bad thing

TBH, as an electronics engineer and computer scientist it's the first thing I do too :) I think my point in that article was that we shouldn't teach that it's the _only_ recourse, and after if it still doesn't work then just replace it.

It's still one step better than the wisdom of my Grandmother's generation:

"If it doesn't work bang it once on the top. If it still doesn't work bang it hard on the side twice. If it still doesn't work, call a man."

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by starkd on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:10AM (#31504753)
The banging fix was also useful for getting better reception on the tv set. Surprising how often it actually worked!
Re:The great junk transfer is coming by Damogran6 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:52AM (#31506289)
Chip creep was the behavior for chips to walk out of their packages due to temperature cycling, percussive maintenance helped reseat things, sometimes enough to make them work again.

(The Apple III was a beneficiary https://www.techjunkie.com/apple-iii-drop/ )

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by QuercusMax on Thursday May 26, 2022 @05:53PM (#31523785)
My dad always talked about lifting the front edge of a component up 2 inches and then letting it drop - he called it the "2-inch test". He said that either it would reseat whatever was flaky, or make it super obvious that it needed to be reseated.
Re:The great junk transfer is coming by corobo on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @12:00PM (#31506409)
> but a power cycle is generally step one for almost all debugging

If you're not the sysadmin and the debugging relates to a production server, stop power cycling it and causing it to fsck on the way up while I'm trying to actually fix it tho lmao. Bonus points: you're frying all the information I need to actually see what is going wrong, now I'm digging in logs and monitoring graphs hoping to catch a clue

Definitely not something that happened repeatedly this morning, haha