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Re:The great junk transfer is coming by nonrandomstring on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:52AM (#31501704)
You don't have to be old to experience this problem. This was my take on techno-clutter from a few months back:

https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-clutter-farnell...

A more funny story:

Back in school, when we were about 17 years old, another kid told me that his Great Uncle had died, and caused him much stress. He'd never met this distant relative, so I enquired, why was he worried? Great Uncle Ben-Ali had named my school-friend, who he'd heard about only through a grandparent but "taken a shine to", as the sole heir and benefactor of his estate - 5 acres of harsh scrub land about 200 miles into the mountains of Morocco containing a shack and two donkeys. He'd received a letter, which was very specific that he was now responsible for the welfare of the donkeys.

Today, this would probably be the start of a great scam, but this was in the 1980s before people "had internet". Many people would have just ignored the whole situation, but my friend, true to his conscience, enlisted Arabic translators and sent letters back and forth to North Morocco for months. Eventually the fate of the donkeys was secured. It was agreed that Ben-Ali's neighbour, whose land they had already wandered on to, would have the donkeys, and the shack would go back to the village/local-government.

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by NickBusey on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @08:43AM (#31503718)
The article you linked I agree with almost fully, nice work.

The only part I have issue with is when the teacher says “we fix things by "switching them off and on again"” as if that’s a bad thing. I see and agree with your actual point, but a power cycle is generally step one for almost all debugging.

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by nonrandomstring on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @09:49AM (#31504475)
> the teacher says “we fix things by "switching them off and on again"” as if that’s a bad thing

TBH, as an electronics engineer and computer scientist it's the first thing I do too :) I think my point in that article was that we shouldn't teach that it's the _only_ recourse, and after if it still doesn't work then just replace it.

It's still one step better than the wisdom of my Grandmother's generation:

"If it doesn't work bang it once on the top. If it still doesn't work bang it hard on the side twice. If it still doesn't work, call a man."

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by starkd on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:10AM (#31504753)
The banging fix was also useful for getting better reception on the tv set. Surprising how often it actually worked!
Re:The great junk transfer is coming by Damogran6 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:52AM (#31506289)
Chip creep was the behavior for chips to walk out of their packages due to temperature cycling, percussive maintenance helped reseat things, sometimes enough to make them work again.

(The Apple III was a beneficiary https://www.techjunkie.com/apple-iii-drop/ )

Re:The great junk transfer is coming by QuercusMax on Thursday May 26, 2022 @05:53PM (#31523785)
My dad always talked about lifting the front edge of a component up 2 inches and then letting it drop - he called it the "2-inch test". He said that either it would reseat whatever was flaky, or make it super obvious that it needed to be reseated.
Re:The great junk transfer is coming by corobo on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @12:00PM (#31506409)
> but a power cycle is generally step one for almost all debugging

If you're not the sysadmin and the debugging relates to a production server, stop power cycling it and causing it to fsck on the way up while I'm trying to actually fix it tho lmao. Bonus points: you're frying all the information I need to actually see what is going wrong, now I'm digging in logs and monitoring graphs hoping to catch a clue

Definitely not something that happened repeatedly this morning, haha