Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book

Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by wrp on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:02AM (#31501418)

They should change the title. It is not a book for programmers about implementation of data science techniques. It is a book for managers about concerns surrounding the application of data science in various domains. The title should be something like "Social Concerns in the Application of Data Science."

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by urthor on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @04:48AM (#31501986)

It's a book for data scientists.

Data scientists are not software engineers.

They analyze data, they don't produce applications.

Not everything in the world is written for the benefit of software engineers.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by antipaul on Friday May 27, 2022 @01:58AM (#31526437)

I agree with you - mostly.

But in the book, computation is one of the three braids comprising data science. And they include software engineering in computation.

See book sections 1.2, 1.2.4, 2.1.3 etc

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What I am trying to untie is, should data engineering be distinguished from data science, or not?

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by robertlagrant on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @05:42AM (#31502315)

Previous poster didn't mention software engineers.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by PeekPoke on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:02AM (#31502774)

programmers != software engineers?

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by saturnaga on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:15AM (#31502867)

Yea I thought that was common knowledge.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by feoren on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @11:57AM (#31506356)

If you're privy to the top-secret distinction between the two that nobody else knows, please share it.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by wahnfrieden on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:44AM (#31503134)

same shit

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by wrp on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @06:37AM (#31502602)

While data science is not principally about programming, I think that having Norvig as one of the authors will lead to false expectations of the book unless the title is made more informative.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by zelphirkalt on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:48AM (#31501687)

Social concerns are as a concern for engineers, as they are for their managers. However, I agree on changing the title somewhat, in order to indicate, that this is not a book about computer programming.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by saturnaga on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:14AM (#31502863)

I think a more philosophical text by Norvig is quite welcome.

This is better than yet another machine learning algorithm book.

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Re:Data Science in Context – Peter Norvig's New Book by wrp on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:01AM (#31504639)

I didn't say there was anything wrong with the book, just the title.

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