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Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by humanistbot on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:25PM (#31497706)
> if you go into an average house right now and you take out all the screens, could you tell that you're not in the 80s?

> The difference between a car right now and a car 30 years ago is that you can now play angry birds on a tablet.

Energy efficiency and fuel economy have made massive gains. Materials are stronger and lighter. Batteries last ages compared to 30 years ago.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by adhesive_wombat on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:33PM (#31497774)
Also they go wrong a hell of a lot less often. 80s cars were mostly complete shit and no one was sorry to see them go.

Also if you crash one, you're vastly less likely to die.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by dragontamer on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:46PM (#31497869)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck

I always liked this IIHS crash test: 1959 Chevrolet Bel Air vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu

It really shows the progress. Seatbelts, the "rigid cage" to protect the driver, air bags, etc. etc.

The 1959 Bel Air crash-dummy is clearly dead, bouncing around the cabin during the crash.

The 2009 Malibu crash-dummy has a sprained neck and the face hurts from hitting the air-bag, but clearly survives.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by adhesive_wombat on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:57PM (#31497967)
I see 50s-80s cars on TV and all I can visualise is that thin metal hoop steering wheel bisecting my face like a melon.
Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by BVCommander on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @03:22AM (#31501529)
Depending on the age of the car your skull could also be cored by the steering column like an apple.

In the 50's the industry propaganda, parroted by bought and paid for regulators, was that all people involved in an automobile collision were irresponsible drivers deserving of death and disfigurement. And especially so for the colored ones, they probably drove recklessly after stealing them. You can't trust the lot of 'em.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by vanilla_nut on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @09:56PM (#31499778)
Absolutely agreed, as someone who's driven around in an 80s deathtrap car quite a bit.

However, it IS unfortunate that we've shifted the risk to people AROUND those vehicles instead of the driver. People drive around in their noise-insulated, airbag-laden tanks these days and they're definitely safer. But it's unfortunate that pedestrians and bicyclists around those cars are actually more likely do die in the event of a crash now because vehicles are so ridiculously tall and overbuilt.

If you ask me, I'd rather that driving was more dangerous for the driver than people around the vehicle. They're the ones taking the risk when they drive poorly. It's unfortunate that the externalities are imposed on those around them instead, now.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by fieldcny on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @08:49PM (#31499380)
And your house doesn’t burn to the ground every time there’s a short in the system
Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by dredmorbius on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @09:46PM (#31499723)
That was not happening as a matter of course in the 1980s.

The basic mechanism to reduce such risks was established in the '80s.

The 1880s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by fieldcny on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:00AM (#31502760)
Have you ever looked at 1950s electrical wiring? How about electrical appliances from the 1950s?

We used to have Christmas tree lights from the 1950s that were passed down from our grandparents. Two unshielded wires and no fuses, we burned out many an outlet and tripped the breaker every year.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by dredmorbius on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @01:15PM (#31507462)
The original claim was house fires in the 1980s of electrical origin. That stock would generally have been built since the 1950s (largely 1960--1990, for the decade of the 1980s).

Candes, fireplaces, cigarettes, and cooking stand out in my memory.

A current industry report puts cooking as the greatest risk, followed by heating equipment. Electrical ranks third:

https://www.nfpa.org/News%20and%20Research/Data%20research%2...

I don't have trending data at this point. If you or others care to provide any, that would be appreciated.

Re:Why isn’t new technology making us more productive? by cudgy on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @07:16AM (#31502880)
I can barely get modern Christmas lights to last more than one season.