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Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by fsflover on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @02:31PM (#31495844)
If you want lifetime software updates, consider GNU/Linux smartphones, Librem 5 and Pinephone. They run mainline Linux, which will receive updates even if the companies behind the smartphones disappear (actually, the second company already doesn't do any development).

More details: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by spicybright on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @04:26PM (#31497170)
I'm going to sound like a negative nancy, but after some casual research I did 6 months ago, I couldn't find any that were reliable as a daily driver cell phone.

For profit companies and strict legal requirements for emergency calls and such have a very good track record so far compared to most reviews I've seen.

Maybe I just don't text much, but SMS and phone calls are generally very important to me in terms of reliability. I've read some reports about one of the main contenders locking up to prevent even 911 calls in certain cases.

I'm sure many of these issues have been addressed, but it's to early for my risk level to use it as a primary device (unless I kept a backup flip phone on me all the time too)

Would absolutely love to be proven wrong though. I want to live in a world where the best software is free and open source, and you can flash it to any device capable of running it.

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by fsflover on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @05:53PM (#31497934)
Yes, these phones are really new and should be used with care. Some people report them as reliable daily drivers though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31237002.

Anyway, anyone who is supporting the change helps future users and solves the problem of the duopoly in the long term.

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by spicybright on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @07:52PM (#31498941)
Someone has to be the guinea pig at some point, right? And I'm extremely thankful there are people stepping up to do so to work out the kinks.

Still dreaming of being able to buy a new phone and picking between real competitive options for it's OS. Like you would for a personal computer.

Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by kaba0 on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @01:39AM (#31500969)
Tongue in cheek answer, but I would like to see the start of said support before we talk about its longevity. Because resized desktop linux is very far from what ios or android offers both on usability, performance metrics and even more so on security ones (where desktop linux has plenty space to improve as well)
Re:Cat S22 Flip Phone by fsflover on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @05:16AM (#31502159)
> resized desktop linux is very far from what ios or android offers both on usability, performance metrics

Yes, Android and iOS have 10+ years of development at this point. However, if you compare with their first versions, GNU/Linux on mobile is good enough already.

> and even more so on security ones

It depends on what your threats are. My threats are Google and Apple. Can Android and iOS protect me? Perhaps GrapheneOS can, but longevity is more important to me.