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Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by vlucas on Thursday May 19, 2022 @04:53PM (#31440022)
Never say never. If you have great credit, you can get some awesome manufacturer incentives.

- I got a 0% APR loan on a new Ford via Ford Motor Finance in 2016 and didn't even have to put much cash down.

- I got a 0% APR loan on a new Hyundai Palisade in 2021 (yes, even after COVID!) by paying for almost half the car in cash as a down payment.

No other finance channel would have ever offered me 0% APR.

Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by gigatexal on Thursday May 19, 2022 @05:05PM (#31440152)
You paid half the car off on the lot? That’s not a great use of cash. I mean in most markets. In most markets cars depreciate not appreciate like they have and the stock market rises not falls like it has. So I guess good move!
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by conductr on Thursday May 19, 2022 @06:08PM (#31440773)
True but consider cars aren't a significant purchase for many people. At least to justify the maneuvering to maximize gains. Is it really opportunity cost if you didn't have another use for the cash and could replenish it fairly quick?
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by antasvara on Thursday May 19, 2022 @11:49PM (#31443147)
The point being made is that if you have 10-20k sitting around that you "have no use for," you should probably invest it in an asset that appreciates in value.
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by conductr on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:23PM (#31452087)
My point is that it's not always worthy of an investment at all. It's just a purchase. It's coming from operating funds. The maneuvering to take out the loan, choose which investments, tax consequences, when might you need that liquidity available again (do you really want to lock it up until retirement?), establishing investment accounts that may not already be established, and all these decisions are, or can be, such an over optimization. Especially if this is a rather immaterial amount of money to you personally. And even if that is a material amount of money for you, you're probably actually better off with the non-ROI producing peace of mind of having your transportation ownership be secured and out of reach of creditors. So, it's hard to make a blanket statement like that.
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by gigatexal on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:01AM (#31444580)
Exactly
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by driverdan on Saturday May 21, 2022 @10:10AM (#31458082)
Re-read what I said. They always offer 0% or a discount. The discount + standard rates works out to cost less.
Re:More Subprime Borrowers Are Missing Loan Payments by brewdad on Thursday May 19, 2022 @09:43PM (#31442407)
I got 1.9% on my Golf 4 years ago with absolutely $0 down. Even the plates and registration got rolled into the loan.