Re:Picasso's self portrait evolution from age 15 to age 90
by airforce1 on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @05:24PM
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So are you arguing that it's impossible for skilled artists to make bad art? You're saying a master chef never makes meals that objectively taste bad, even if they are experimenting with completely new flavors and techniques? I think some people in this thread have raised Picasso to Godhood status. In my reckoning, Picasso was a skilled artist in an ocean of other skilled artists so he was desperate to do something different to try and stand out from the crowd. So he started experimenting with new "flavors and techniques". Assuming he is human, we can safely assume some of his experimental creations fell flat and objectively turned out bad. To deny this is to uphold Picasso as a God who is incapable of producing anything but perfection.
Re:Picasso's self portrait evolution from age 15 to age 90
by peoplefromibiza on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @05:41PM
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> So are you arguing that it's impossible for skilled artists to make bad art?
not in the case of Picasso.
> a master chef never makes meals that objectively taste bad, even if they are experimenting with completely new flavors and techniques?
not when they are preparing it for clients.
The point is that very skilled people are consistent
Their output is always gonna be beyond average.
> some of his experimental creations fell flat and objectively turned out bad
perhaps.
but there's no proof of it.
in fact there's proof that he's always been at Picasso's level.
You can see every motion, every measure, the size of the flame, there are no cuts.
But if you actually go ahead and try to make this it turns out to be INCREDIBLY difficult to get it right.
Not every random mish mash or scribble is as random as a layperson will at first think.
The other analogy is look at the original post. Picasso COULD have painted like he did at 15 or 18 or 20 - which I assume you would agree you couldn't scribble yourself. But he CHOSE to paint in the style you are criticizing. You should default to assuming that there is more skill to it than you can see.