Success in Canada means moving to America

Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by wahnfrieden on Saturday May 14, 2022 @11:43AM (#31379064)

It's much easier to move to Canada. I'm a young American who just got Canadian citizenship simply by taking a job here via NAFTA, and am now no longer working while residing in Canada (with zero intention to seek employment). The equivalent TN visa if I had gone from Canada to US does not lead to citizenship - you're expected to leave the country and abandon the life you've built for yourself in your community if you want to leave your job or stop working. It's all about selling your free time to a boss, or getting out - the American way.

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by dagmx on Saturday May 14, 2022 @11:49AM (#31379148)

Yeah it's hard to overstate how much clearer and well defined the Canadian immigration system is.

I did all my paperwork myself to go from student visa to work permit to residency and finally citizenship. Incredibly simple, relatively cut and dry (assuming you can afford it and qualify to begin with of course)

I went to work in the US for a bit and have to hire folks in the US now. I needed lawyers to help with my application because I needed an O1 instead of a TN for lack of a degree (it's 12 years work experience or a bachelor's for a TN, and I only had 6 at the time). TN's can also be denied easily at the border, H1Bs are lottery based on many factors out of your control

And after all of that, each visa means different things when I travel, or if I ever want to apply for a green card etc... The US system is a nightmare to navigate.

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by bbarnett on Saturday May 14, 2022 @12:09PM (#31379352)

Sorry to bug you, if you have time, and found the lawyers competent/helpful/etc, could you let me know who you used?

I have the same issue.

My email is on my about page.

Thanks

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by dagmx on Saturday May 14, 2022 @12:55PM (#31379857)

Unfortunately I can't say a specific one just because they were a firm that represented my employer. The firm is a common one used by many tech companies though: https://www.fragomen.com/

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by bbarnett on Saturday May 14, 2022 @02:46PM (#31381028)

OK, thanks!

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by perardi on Saturday May 14, 2022 @12:50PM (#31379821)

Hey, American citizen, PR status.

I have heard horror stories from friends who have migrated to the US—a doctor acquaintance from Mexico comes to mind. The Canadian system seems…deterministic? If 10 people feed the same paperwork and money into the Canadian system, they both end up with the same result. If 10 people feed paperwork and money into the US system: utter random chaos.

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by bombcar on Saturday May 14, 2022 @01:23PM (#31380208)

I feel a big part is which way the wind is blowing; the countries that are “desirable” have no reason to make it easy, in fact they have incentives to make it complicated and hard.

The countries that want people to come to them have reason to remove roadblocks.

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by koolala on Saturday May 14, 2022 @01:56PM (#31380544)

What is your main way of life in Canada if you are not working? Are you retired or will you need to seek employment later?

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Re:Success in Canada means moving to America by wahnfrieden on Saturday May 14, 2022 @02:06PM (#31380634)

sole proprietorship saas

labor is cool, working for an owner under coercion is not

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