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Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by tester756 on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:03AM (#31375992)
Aren't soliders across the world taught of this? like how does it even happen in current_year
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by sofixa on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:14AM (#31376044)
The Russians don't have reliable communications, so it's not like there's that much choice.

Furthermore, the level of training and education of the average Russian soldier is.. not great. Look at some of the things they did around Chernobyl for an example of their knowledge gaps. Same goes for their discipline ( low morale, poor training, corruption, encouragement of war crimes will do that).

Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by octoberfranklin on Saturday May 14, 2022 @05:18AM (#31376266)
> The Russians don't have reliable communications, so it's not like there's that much choice.

Oh come on, VHF radio is stupid reliable. It's a war zone, so nobody's enforcing TX power limits. I don't buy this explanation. They aren't downloading multigigabyte 4k video, they're issuing combat orders. VHF has done a great job with that for decades.

Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by sofixa on Saturday May 14, 2022 @05:39AM (#31376366)
Have you seen the captured kits? Some soldiers have cheap walkie-talkies (literally commercial off the shelf cheap Chinese brands), but many others have nothing.

If i recall correctly, their aircraft are supposed to be fitted with some high tech super encrypted communications system, but it doesn't work, which is why they use phones (with buttons).

It's not a matter of "the tech is too complex", it's more of a "the people supposed to implement/acquire/rollout this relatively basic tech pocketed the money instead".

Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by octoberfranklin on Saturday May 14, 2022 @05:59AM (#31376436)
> Some soldiers have cheap walkie-talkies (literally commercial off the shelf cheap Chinese brands)

Which need neither fiber optics nor cell towers.

Baofengs aren't actually all that bad (they're not all that good either).

Claiming that they are so poor they couldn't order a palletload of Baofengs is just so far beyond believable...

Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by sofixa on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:05AM (#31376463)
It's not a matter of being poor, but corrupt. The money was allocated, and later stolen.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by codedokode on Saturday May 14, 2022 @09:42AM (#31377840)
You cannot talk to your friends or girlfriend using radio though.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by sofixa on Saturday May 14, 2022 @10:27AM (#31378233)
Yep, or ask your girlfriend for permission to rape, or tell your parents you're sending them a washing machine, or posing for TikTok.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by multjoy on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:01AM (#31376445)
They don't have VHF radio.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by kzrdude on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:30AM (#31376098)
How do they leave so many dead bodies of soldiers behind in current_year? There's a lot you can ask about the mess in the Russian military culture.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by Synaesthesia on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:13AM (#31376036)
This is why Russian troops are forbidden to have cellphones and to use social media.
Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by simion314 on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:49AM (#31376168)
Probably the superiors did not waste time explaining the reason and just demanded their phones, then the Russian soldier stole or robbed a phone and called home since he knows there is a big chance that he will be dead soon.

So if you think that your soldiers have this need to talk home maybe an competent army should offer them some alternatives, like some satellite phone they can use once a day and call home, you can't expect 18 years old forced to go to war to be professionals.

Re:Russian troops are proving that cell phones in war zones ... by praptak on Saturday May 14, 2022 @05:45AM (#31376385)
Yeah I bet they are also forbidden from looting.