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Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by zionic on Thursday May 12, 2022 @01:04AM (#31349491)
This. They did the same thing with “terra USD”, some shitcoin I had never heard of until it failed. It was even named to confuse people by sounding like USDT.

HN is only a step above CNN when it comes to trustworthiness on this specific topic.

Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by oliwarner on Thursday May 12, 2022 @04:34AM (#31350859)
It doesn't count as real crypto until zionic has heard of it?

Irrespective of your attitude to an unheard-of coin, the situation rather epitomises the problem many have with crypto. They start off as penny stocks, but people expect them all to rocket to Fortune 500 levels for no good reason other than all the other gullible idiots pumping their savings into them, forgetting in their greed that it's quite as easy to start a run if you have enough.

Before you know it —and I very much mean you there— they're trading at $120 with a cap of $32bn before the floor drops out. I know a cap isn't tangible value but none of this stuff is. That didn't stop this being a top 10 crypto currency at one point.

It's all Monopoly money. You can get rich trading it, but you can also lose everything. A lot of people are getting fractions of a penny on their dollar investment. All because, what? It stinks of pump and dump. It all stinks of pump and dump.

Pile on the environmental disaster that is proof of work, and you should be able to see why people hate crypto. It's weirder that more people don't but on investigation that's usually because they have skin in the game.

Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by sokoloff on Thursday May 12, 2022 @07:56AM (#31352672)
It’s not all pump and dump; there’s more to crypto than just that:

https://mobile.twitter.com/patdennis/status/1518637225789042...

  Sick of people calling everything in crypto a Ponzi scheme. Some crypto projects are pump and dump schemes, while others are pyramid schemes. Others are just standard issue fraud. Others are just middlemen skimming of the top. Stop glossing over the diversity in the industry.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by zionic on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:52AM (#31355910)
>It doesn't count as real crypto until zionic has heard of it?

That's not what I'm saying. I consider myself fairly active in the space, and I hadn't heard a peep about this coin until it blew up. I doubt most on HN had either, but that won't stop the doomers.

Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by oliwarner on Thursday May 12, 2022 @05:50PM (#31360562)
This only further speaks to the problem.

Isn't it a problem with "the space" that any old Gigachad and his drawful of sockpuppets can jump on a nobody-coin that's been doing nothing for three years, and in 12 months of frothing, pump it up to a top-10 coin, and dump out their holding for a few billion dollars and "active in the space" people like you don't even notice?

Thousands more of these things are being minted every week. Thousands more opportunities to suck in "investors at the ground floor".

I don't think it's fair to label critics as doomers. We just don't see the value you do, or at least, our accounting puts the very visible and very recurrent harms of crypto above their potential benefits.

Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by smabie on Thursday May 12, 2022 @02:13AM (#31349879)
Not to defend Terra but Luna/UST were an absolutely massive part of the crypto ecosystem. It's not some random shitcoin
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by zionic on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:53AM (#31355920)
Are you possibly confusing UST with USDT? Tether would be fairly characterized as a "massive part of the crypto ecosystem". I don't think you can say the same about terra
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by shawabawa3 on Thursday May 12, 2022 @04:20PM (#31359698)
Terra was the 9th biggest coin by market cap

Luna something like the 15th

They were absolutely major players and not a "random shitcoin"

Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by cycrutchfield on Thursday May 12, 2022 @01:10AM (#31349519)
UST was like the #8 cryptocurrency by market cap…
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by zionic on Thursday May 12, 2022 @01:45AM (#31349727)
Lots of scams have blown up and temporarily been there. I’m sure bitconnect did too.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by WHA8m on Thursday May 12, 2022 @04:13AM (#31350709)
You're going from 'shitcoin' to 'scam'. Bitconnect was somewhat relevant/ significant. The 100th meme dog coin is not.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by headsoup on Thursday May 12, 2022 @07:31AM (#31352431)
So how about USDT losing its peg to the dollar, they some unknown that means nothing whatsoever?
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by zionic on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:54AM (#31355943)
Last I checked it's pegged. DAI and tether fluctuate a lot but generally stay right near $1. Just pulled up the 7d tether chart and I see one spike to $0.9905, which isn't that bad.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by FabHK on Thursday May 12, 2022 @08:15AM (#31352860)
To be fair, among the USD-"pegged" stable coins, UST was the third largest and had about 10% of the market cap, until a few days ago. The fact that you hadn't heard of it is hardly pertinent.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by qeternity on Thursday May 12, 2022 @04:49AM (#31350987)
Just to put in perspective: a number of non-crypto YC startups had their treasury in UST. The reverberations of this will be massive.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by thfuran on Thursday May 12, 2022 @08:16AM (#31352870)
Any company that kept money it really needed in crypto deserves to vanish.
Re:Cryptocurreny retailer BitPrime closes trading after runn... by daniel-cussen on Thursday May 12, 2022 @09:52AM (#31354185)
Oh that happened in 2009 as well, tons of startups had their money parked in an asset with a special name, where it was tied to real estate, so the startups' treasury could appreciate without being spent. Because real estate never goes down, you see. It was so safe.

Safety is dangerous.