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Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by ChuckNorris89 on Monday May 09, 2022 @01:54PM (#31317436)
Except you can't survey an area with a an artillery warhead.

Sure, you can use your spotters to scout ahead, but why put them in danger of an ambush and have them get killed by a sniper or hidden machinegun, when you can survey that area from a safe distance, and take out the sniper/machine gun if you see one?

This is not meant to replace artillery battalions and scouts, but to complement them.

Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by greedo on Monday May 09, 2022 @02:00PM (#31317533)
Cheaper to use a drone for spotting instead of a FIST unit. That's what's working for the UA.

Kamikaze drones have a role for the smaller units, but at the battalion level, it's better to use a surveillance drone to coordinate fires from mortars, MLRS and artillery. The rounds fired from these systems typically have longer range than a drone, a higher rate of fire, and larger warheads.

Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by gpderetta on Monday May 09, 2022 @04:16PM (#31319160)
In fact it seems to me that overall drones as artillery spotters have been much more impactful than direct fire drones in this war.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by jollybean on Monday May 09, 2022 @04:34PM (#31319362)
Yes, except for the strategic things like hitting AA, ships etc..
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by greedo on Monday May 09, 2022 @07:26PM (#31321232)
Artillery is the king of battle. I've seen numerous SAM/AA gear destroyed in Ukraine by artillery using drones for spotting.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by glogla on Monday May 09, 2022 @02:20PM (#31317818)
I think these are pretty complementary. Switchblade 300 is a 10km range Javelin (same warhead in fact) with integrated surveillance capability that can go beyond range of sight. It is not there to replace mortars, artillery and MRLS, which are area weapons.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by openasocket on Monday May 09, 2022 @02:42PM (#31318092)
switchblade 600 has the Javelin-like warhead, switchblade 300 has something equivalent to a 40mm grenade for a warhead
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by kevin_thibedeau on Monday May 09, 2022 @03:38PM (#31318738)
The 300 is the low collateral assassination drone when you can't use sword bombs.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by thelittleone on Monday May 09, 2022 @02:32PM (#31317968)
The switchblade 300 has the same warhead as a javelin? Got a source for that?
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by foxyv on Monday May 09, 2022 @03:54PM (#31318916)
It's the 600 with the tank buster.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by gpderetta on Monday May 09, 2022 @04:18PM (#31319183)
Artillery has been used by Ukraine, and by a lesser extent by Russia, extremely effectively as a precision weapon against all kind of targets, including MBTs.
Re:The Turkish drone that changed the nature of warfare by alkonaut on Monday May 09, 2022 @03:34PM (#31318697)
You can survey with a drone. Merging the observation with the munition is what makes it a loitering munition, but drones for observation/targeting/correction + traditional corrected or guided artillery is very similar (especially guided shells like Excalibur etc which are also themselves similar to loitering munitions just that they loiter very briefly…)