Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms advantaged groups

Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by Buttons840 on Sunday May 08, 2022 @02:09PM (#31306506)

I don't think they should both be allowed to join the team, but if our goal is equal opportunity, then going forward person A is going to have more opportunity and thus we will not achieve our goal of equal opportunity.

I guess I'm saying that unequal outcomes lead to unequal opportunities. "Equal opportunity, not equal outcomes" sounds nice, but it's inherently unstable, because the unequal outcomes will result in unequal opportunities.

I think:

1. It's an impossible ideal, but that's ok. It's not the only impossible ideal.

2. Sometimes, we should just focus on concrete ways we can help equalize opportunities.

3. Sometimes, we can talk about the difficult philosophy behind it all, and probably wont come up with concrete solutions in the process, but it might be a worth while thought exercise.

(I'm doing 3 right now.)

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by Karrot_Kream on Sunday May 08, 2022 @04:12PM (#31307718)

> Sometimes, we can talk about the difficult philosophy behind it all, and probably wont come up with concrete solutions in the process, but it might be a worth while thought exercise.

The term you're looking for here is Free Will or Determinism, in respect to the State. Different folks have different views on these. Your views seem to place a large weight on Determinism. I personally think Determinism in the State is a philosophical dead end based on the evidence of the last century.

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