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Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by mellosouls on Saturday May 07, 2022 @07:53AM (#31293815)
a bus ‘Captain’ who will move around the saloon, talking to passengers about the service and answering any questions they may have, demonstrating what a future service night feel like...

They use to call these "bus conductors" before they sacked them all to save money.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_conductor

Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by hanoz on Saturday May 07, 2022 @07:59AM (#31293842)
I hope this isn't a case of how many people does it take to drive an autonomous bus? Two, one to drive it, and the other to wander round telling passengers it's autonomous.
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by mytailorisrich on Saturday May 07, 2022 @08:02AM (#31293863)
Yes, the point of autonomous buses is partly to get rid of the human driver, so they are obviously not going to create a new position to continue to have a human on-board.

This is temporary until people are used to, and confident about, a bus with no driver, and until law allows no emergency driver on-board.

Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by dazc on Saturday May 07, 2022 @08:50AM (#31294098)
Precedent being lift/elevator operators, I suppose?
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday May 07, 2022 @07:56AM (#31293831)
They weren’t so much sacked as they were made obsolete by technology and rising productivity. You could still find bus conductors in China even just 10 years ago where they still made sense a bit (if only to collect fares).
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by Neekerer on Saturday May 07, 2022 @09:01AM (#31294154)
Many busses still have them in China
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by mellosouls on Saturday May 07, 2022 @08:00AM (#31293846)
Yes, I included the link for more useful context, but ultimately I think it comes down to the same thing.
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by pkphilip on Saturday May 07, 2022 @10:22AM (#31294712)
We still have them here in India
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by midasuni on Saturday May 07, 2022 @10:41AM (#31294873)
Last time I was in Delhi (about 5 years ago) there were still elevator operators. Not only completely useless to me as a user, but also taking up space preventing people getting in when it’s busy.
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by hemreldop on Saturday May 07, 2022 @01:09PM (#31296463)
People in India just need jobs. It’s not even functional in many cases though the presence of a person feels nice in a lot of these places.
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by midasuni on Sunday May 08, 2022 @08:27AM (#31303426)
You can pay someone to do something that’s not needed, and maybe it gives them a sense of purpose based on a Victorian/puritanical view of the world (rather than just giving the money regardless)

However to me it’s like doormen and bellboys at US hotels or people behind a counter at a shop, it’s unnecessary human contact (which is horrendous), and it reduces functionality (reducing capacity of fixed infrastructre)

A better solution would be to employ people in more productive enterprises.

Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday May 07, 2022 @08:07AM (#31293879)
Nice doublespeak
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by dazc on Saturday May 07, 2022 @08:46AM (#31294080)
I don't remeber bus conductors being that friendly and helpful though, tbh.
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by mellosouls on Saturday May 07, 2022 @09:14AM (#31294219)
I don't believe you, I've seen "On The Buses'
Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by HigherPlain on Saturday May 07, 2022 @09:13AM (#31294212)
That's a slightly "luddite" interpretation. The bus conductor job-class was outmoded by technology. More jobs are created at a higher technology level. This is how society has progressed for all history.

A fantastic Mitchell and Webb comedy sketch on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyu4u3VZYaQ

Re:UK’s first full-sized autonomous bus takes to the roads o... by sixQuarks on Saturday May 07, 2022 @10:13AM (#31294638)
Or in the US, picking up used needles, cleaning vomit, piss and fecal matter.