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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by staticassertion on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @11:20AM (#31261735)
We license people to drive and have a legal system for dealing with irresponsible drivers.
Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by BaculumMeumEst on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @11:26AM (#31261828)
Companies have policies for software security. Industries have regulations.
Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by staticassertion on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @11:47AM (#31262116)
The most common policy will be for SOC2, ISO27001. There's virtually nothing about software security in there, other than scanning for vulnerabilities. Everything else is about controls on infrastructure, threat modeling, that sort of thing.

It's not really relevant.

Besides, none of those have to do with software engineers. Compliance doesn't imply any individual responsibility.

Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by BaculumMeumEst on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:03PM (#31262335)
The most common policy for what? I've worked in defense and there are stringent security requirements for applications and servers, which programs written in manual memory management languages would likely fail. "Some existing policies are bad" is not a convincing argument that hare shouldn't exist.
Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by staticassertion on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:07PM (#31262376)
The most common for companies to have/ be required to have.

> I've worked in defense and there are stringent security requirements for applications and servers.

Like? FEDRAMP? The vast majority of compliance is about threat modeling and access controls.

Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by BaculumMeumEst on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:28PM (#31262661)
> Like? FEDRAMP?

No, STIGs.

> The vast majority of compliance is about threat modeling and access controls.

If compliance doesn't address security, that sounds like a bigger issue than a new hobby language existing.

Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by staticassertion on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:47PM (#31265652)
The issue is that no one is taking responsibility for writing safe software. Compliance / regulation isn't, developers aren't either.