Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else?

Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by ncmncm on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @09:13PM (#31255677)

It is hard to find anyplace where you may have C but not C++. Do people still use PICs? I think 32-bit ARM chips may be had for 3 cents nowadays. For a really memory-constrained target, you might choose to turn off exception support.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by pjmlp on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:20AM (#31258299)

They do, but personally I would be pushing for Pascal in such cases.

https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by ncmncm on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:47PM (#31262896)

Pascal lacks destructors and templates. No dice.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by pjmlp on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:30PM (#31264138)

True, although in the context of PIC programming hardly matters.

For me no dice is being unsafe by default.

Thankfully in the context of C++ I could always fix, what from my point of view, are bad defaults regarding bounds checking.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by ncmncm on Thursday May 05, 2022 @11:44AM (#31274829)

Pascal is unsafe by default: it allows null pointers, and stale pointers.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by pjmlp on Friday May 06, 2022 @03:44AM (#31282467)

True, but it has a much safer story than C in everything else.

C++ was attractive to me in 1993, because it offered me the safety, and modern language features I was used from Turbo Pascal and then some.

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