Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else?

Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by akagusu on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @10:57AM (#31249146)

> Hare aims to be successful within its niche for the programmers that find its ideas compelling, and nothing further. If you are using and enjoying C, C++, Rust, Zig, or any other language, and don’t find Hare’s ideas all that interesting, then I encourage you to keep using these languages.

I think they DON'T want to compete with any language nor attract C/C++/Rust/Zig/Nim/Forth/<name_your_language_here> coders.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by d3nj4l on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @11:23AM (#31249440)

So why does it exist?

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by this_is_eline on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @01:07PM (#31250715)

Why not? They are not forcing you to use it.. If you don't like it, how hard can it be for you to ignore it?

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by akagusu on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @02:27PM (#31251722)

Why coders code?

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by tasuki on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @11:55AM (#31249851)

I'd like to know, too!

From my point of view, all languages which don't add anything new and improved are a drag on our collective computing experience.

I'd be happy if humanity had like three or four programming languages: Idris or some other better-Haskell (for guarantees), Lisp (for simplicity), Rust (for performance), and probably one or two other languages which are unique enough, Prolog or something, K?

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by eatonphil on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:17PM (#31250095)

> From my point of view, all languages which don't add anything new and improved are a drag on our collective computing experience.

I couldn't disagree more. The more people writing languages and implementing standard libraries the better.

Are these minor languages going to be used in production? An even smaller minority of them, sure.

For the majority of them it's a chance for developers to relearn data structures and algorithms and compilers. Real, hands-on practice that is hard to beat with any other method. I only got decent at algorithms and data structures by implementing languages and standard libraries.

I'd rather every developer built their own language.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by tasuki on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @04:00PM (#31252847)

I agree with everything you wrote! And yet... the endless myriad of programming languages which don't bring anything particularly new is still annoying me. Perhaps I'm just getting old :)

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by jamal-kumar on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @11:58AM (#31249897)

I think it exists largely because Drew DeVault likes making his own things from scratch and also because other people like his opinionated software development. People wouldn't throw him money for stuff like sourcehut otherwise.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by maxbond on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:19PM (#31250118)

> [A]ll languages which don't add anything new and improved are a drag on our collective computing experience.

If people weren't experimenting with weird esoteric languages, how would we have gotten any of the languages you list here? If I'm recalling correctly, K is descended from APL, a language you needed a special keyboard even to use. Rust synthesizes ideas from lots of small academic languages no one will ever ship software on.

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Re:Will Hare replace C? Or Rust? Or Zig? Or anything else? by tasuki on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @03:54PM (#31252771)

I'm not against esoteric languages at all! (as long as they bring something conceptually new/different :)

I guess my main gripe is the duplication of effort: same thing with a slightly different spin, the time wasted learning different libraries doing fundamentally the same thing, etc.

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