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Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by stingraycharles on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:57AM (#31223319)
I think it’s very explicit that HN never intends to be a democracy, and one of the techniques it uses is fairly strong moderation.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Brian_K_White on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:57AM (#31223605)
How does that make it ok? Mods moderate, ...and their moderation action caused this flood of negative reaction which wouldn't have been their otherwise.

If it's valid to criticise a critic, it must also be valid to criticise a critic critic.

The merits of a given argument or action do not rest on "because daddy said so". There is and must be a daddy, but no daddy is above critique themselves even though their job is to moderate others.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by dang on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:49PM (#31227584)
The downweighting in the case of ushakov's comment wasn't done by a mod. It was done by a regular user who, along with a small number of other longstanding HN users, has the ability to downweight subthreads that are either too generic or offtopic. This is an experiment that we've been running for several months now. Actually the experiment has been quite successful—this sort of downweighting is the probably highest-leverage thing we've ever discovered for improving thread quality, and I'd like to find a way to extend the experiment to more users.

IIRC, the downweight was correct in principle, because the subthread wasn't about the particular story, it was just a generic complaint about the general topic. We want those downweighted because, regardless of topic, they have a strong tendency to sit at the top of a thread, accumulating upvotes and choking out more specific and more interesting discussion.

It was a mistake to downweight it, though—not because the subthread was good, but because the topic was a YC startup. By far the most important rule of HN moderation is that we intervene less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the topic (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).

The user who did the downweighting didn't know that Fig was a YC startup, so it was an honest mistake. Certainly none of this has to do with trying to suppress criticism of YC or YC-funded companies. We know how to take our lumps and do so all the time. We also know that community goodwill is the only value that HN actually has, so doing anything to jeopardize that would be really dumb.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by spoils19 on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:55AM (#31223594)
So the community espouses the free market of ideas, yet we're supposed to love it's strong moderation?
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Kye on Sunday May 01, 2022 @06:18AM (#31223716)
The community is made up of people from all walks of life from everywhere on the planet. It's impossible to speak of it in general terms.

No, not everyone wants an ideological free-for-all.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by beckman466 on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:58AM (#31223610)
> I think it’s very explicit that HN never intends to be a democracy

really? any examples you can share?

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by FrenchDevRemote on Sunday May 01, 2022 @06:31AM (#31223790)
there is a big difference between moderation and favoritism