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Re:Actual is going open-source by soneca on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:06PM (#31210039)
I agree with you, but I appreciate that people on HN talk like this because then I am presented to this world of privileges. It shows to me that this world exists and I might benefit from it. That happened to me.

Instead of anchoring myself to what Brazilian companies pay for developers, I focused on getting a remote job at a US company. One that would anchor themselves among their peers around SV, LA, NY. Now I earn about 12x more than when I started as a junior when I started 5 years ago. I earn about 3x more than if I was lucky to get the best paying job for my experience level here in my city.

This 3x salary increase is very related to knowing that this privileged world existed, which is mainly HN’s fault in my case.

Bear in mind that I am not earning close to USD200k (but six digits). I learned around here that FAANG salaries exists, but then I decided that those are not for me. But that’s a conscious decision. A much better position of not even knowing this exists.

Re:Actual is going open-source by xtracto on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:32PM (#31210261)
Whitexican problems we call it here in Mexico: I'm in a similar position. 6 digit USD salary while living in Mexico. My problem is that I've been wanting to setup a business: real life like a gym, a store or similar.

The issue is that there's no way I'll get as much money as what I'm earning now... and I know building the business will require insurmountable efforts.

So I'm reduced to keep working in IT, wait until my good luck ends and hopefully be able to retire around 45

Re:Actual is going open-source by jeromegv on Friday April 29, 2022 @05:21PM (#31210710)
You are not "reduced" to do that. You are making that choice, that's all. Nobody is forcing you. If you badly wanted to create a business, you'd just go ahead and do it.
Re:Actual is going open-source by LesZedCB on Friday April 29, 2022 @05:35PM (#31210821)
> > will require insurmountable efforts

regardless of whether or not you believe it's just "making that choice," completely discrediting somebody's claim the effort is insurmountable _to them_ makes you a breaker of Rule 1

Re:Actual is going open-source by presentation on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:52PM (#31211935)
Well it is objectively surmountable and if it personally isn’t to them that means that the money is more important to them than achieving that goal to make a business. I don’t see how this isn’t a choice? “I’m not doing it since the insecurity of not having a high income is scarier than my desire to open a business”

That said I do bet that if you try to do your thing and it really doesn’t work out you probably can go back to software afterwards if you’re open to the risk of burning through your savings in the process.

Re:Actual is going open-source by throwaway413 on Friday April 29, 2022 @09:12PM (#31212448)
Because putting food on the table so your family can eat isn’t a choice. Don’t have savings to burn through as you do that? Then it’s not a choice.

Just one example.

Morality may not be objective, but it surely isn’t just personal either. That’s what makes it a nuanced discussion, and not just a choice one makes.

By deciding you want to do that in the future but first you need to save, are you deprioritizing it, or prioritizing it indirectly?

Re:Actual is going open-source by dzikimarian on Saturday April 30, 2022 @05:57AM (#31214716)
Most people in his country put food on family table without US-level software developer salary. It's hard to lower expectations of life quality, but let's not dramatize.
Re:Actual is going open-source by leaflets2 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:46PM (#31221691)
Isn't everyone nitpicking at the word "insurmountable" :-)

What if it wasn't meant to be taken literally

Re:Actual is going open-source by xtracto on Saturday April 30, 2022 @11:42PM (#31221998)
Lol i came back to my comment and saw this thread... English is not my first language so you are right, I'm sorry my choice of word got people worked up.
Re:Actual is going open-source by bombcar on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:51PM (#31211513)
Or find an extremely trusted local who also wants to start a business and bankroll them.

The extremely trusted is the hard part.

Re:Actual is going open-source by Tenemo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @03:16AM (#31214059)
Off-topic, but are you the bombcar of GTNH fame?
Re:Actual is going open-source by bombcar on Saturday April 30, 2022 @08:21AM (#31215482)
If it can be called fame, heh.
Re:Actual is going open-source by cortesoft on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:21PM (#31212799)
I am curious… why do you want to start a business? It seems like so much work for less pay. Why is the option of working until you retire early a bad thing?
Re:Actual is going open-source by potatochup on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:37PM (#31212875)
Not the OP but I'd love to do something that contributes to the local community in a more tangible way than my current $BIGTECH job. I'd love to start a dance studio, a cafe/bookstore, a makerspace. But it'd be a huge pay cut, assuming I could even make a successful business out of it.
Re:Actual is going open-source by nine_k on Saturday April 30, 2022 @01:16AM (#31213531)
Your paying higher taxes contributes likely more to the community than another store.

Your paying a local charity usually does much more to the community than even running a gym.

If you run a store or a cafe by just paying locals to work in it, using a part of your high wages, it's pretty helpful. But see the charity above; maybe it's better to support e.g. educators.

In general, your community is never better off if you suddenly become poorer.

Re:Actual is going open-source by leaflets2 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:50PM (#31221713)
Using the money to pay others to start more local schools, maybe a free coding bootcamp (with entrance tests), maybe maybe could be a high impact thing to do?

Or a charity yes (unless of course it's sth like a SPA for dogs)

Re:Actual is going open-source by robertlagrant on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @05:04AM (#31246204)
Taxes contribute to government, not community. Agree with the charity option.
Re:Actual is going open-source by xtracto on Saturday April 30, 2022 @11:46PM (#31222009)
It's just because I've been working in Technology all my life. I've got a PhD in CompSci, I've grown the tech teams of 2 startups, I've worked in different areas... and I just dont really find it that fulfilling anymore. The pay is outrageously good... but at this point it's mainly just that. After 20 years of doing it, it just isnt the same.

Maybe it's just the "midlife crisis"

Re:Actual is going open-source by setr on Monday May 02, 2022 @04:18AM (#31232556)
I used to be told:

The first 25 years to improve yourself

The second 25 years to improve your family

The third 25 years to improve your community

The final 25 years to improve everyone

It sounds like you're just reaching the third stage of life :-)

Re:Actual is going open-source by tomcam on Friday April 29, 2022 @11:05PM (#31213000)
> Instead of anchoring myself to what Brazilian companies pay for developers, I focused on getting a remote job at a US company. One that would anchor themselves among their peers around SV, LA, NY.

Ridiculously smart move. Congratulations.