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Re:There Is No CD Revival by michaelmrose on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:25AM (#31203451)
For practical purposes the legality of ripping ones one own legally acquired cds is meaningless because it is impossible that one should face enforcement regardless of legality. A good argument could be had that in the US it is fair use however its hard to establish the legality given that in nearly 40 years in the US nobody has ever insofar as I'm able to discern ever had action taken against them solely for copying CDs to a computer or device for personal use.

DVDs are more complicated as tools to remove DRM are illegal under the DMCA.

There are 100 different jurisdictions and while the law is different the practical situation is the same. Who is exactly going to police you copying your own cds in your own home? How is bob from bob's records to discover you have copied it? One should have to convince congress to require Operating systems to rat you out to bob then convince users to use such systems.

Re:There Is No CD Revival by pbhjpbhj on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:53AM (#31203606)
In the UK under RIPA some authority could get records from your ISP of accesses to a CD info download system. Then they can ask that service for the list of track titles. As copyright is tort, the balance of probabilities is then that you infringed copyright.

Doesn't quite make sense, as copyright is tort, but there are police departments devoted to court enforcement. I'd be wary.

Not saying it will happen, but seems easy to catch a lot of people with the draconian powers and laws of UK.

Re:There Is No CD Revival by michaelmrose on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:54AM (#31204456)
So we start with a wronged party like a copyright owner. They ask a service that is likely in a different country for all the info on the people who looked up metadata of ip they own and don't get laughed out of court.

Then they demand that isps all over the country give names and addresses of people all over the UK that broke no law and did no wrong in hopes of conducting a fishing expedition and don't get laughed out of court.

Now they know who pays the bill for each home network but have no idea who actually downloaded the perfectly legal metadata and no way whatsoever to correlate the data of unknown users of the data with potentially unnamed buyers who legally purchased mp3s from multiple channels like Apple but you think a judge is going to let you paw through every computer in someone's home because you think they probably ripped a cd instead of downloading it on itunes 6 years ago on a different computer at a different address.

Does this sound real?

Re:There Is No CD Revival by nybble41 on Friday April 29, 2022 @12:17PM (#31207132)
> So we start with a wronged party like a copyright owner.

"Wronged" implies that they were harmed in some way. A better term would be "offended". They discovered, indirectly, that someone else was doing something they don't approve of—which otherwise doesn't affect them at all—and they want it stopped by any means necessary, even though this will just make the other person worse off without materially improving their own situation.

Re:There Is No CD Revival by daveoc64 on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:23AM (#31204233)
Or you could have just put the CD into your PC to listen to the music, and it downloaded the metadata for on-screen use only?
Re:There Is No CD Revival by throwaway0x7E6 on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:47AM (#31203570)
they wouldn't go after nobodies, that's true. but if you're an inconvenient person for the powers that be, you may very well have the book get thrown at you.
Re:There Is No CD Revival by michaelmrose on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:55AM (#31204471)
Why hasn't this happened in decades?