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Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by sakopov on Thursday April 28, 2022 @05:48AM (#31190571)
Blockchain is just a decentralized ledger of transactions. A cryptocurrency is an implementation of digital currency using a blockchain. Blaming blockchain for not having fraud prevention tech is like blaming TCP/IP stack for delivering a scam email to your inbox. This is a problem to be solved in a higher layer, which we're seemingly nowhere near as we're still just trying to get blockchain to scale efficiently.
Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by coldtea on Thursday April 28, 2022 @06:21AM (#31190804)
>Blockchain is just a decentralized ledger of transactions. A cryptocurrency is an implementation of digital currency using a blockchain. Blaming blockchain for not having fraud prevention tech is like blaming TCP/IP stack for delivering a scam email to your inbox.

It's more like blaming a water utility company that doesn't give potable water, and its supporters tell you "but you can always buy a bottle of water from the store. Or maybe dig for water yourself!".

Yes, one can build the "fraud prevention" and other measures on top of blockchain. But then you have a financial institution just like a bank, and you can drop the blockchain part - anything it "solves" can be solved much simpler and with 1000x less energy once you have the other trappings of a financial institution.

Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by mattwilsonn888 on Thursday April 28, 2022 @06:43AM (#31190946)
That's not true. A bank does not allow universal and unquestioning withdrawal nor does it truly require user consent to complete transactions. Clever cryptography makes it possible to do both building on top of Bitcoin or whatever ledger has the desired security and feature set.
Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by coldtea on Thursday April 28, 2022 @07:34AM (#31191273)
>That's not true. A bank does not allow universal and unquestioning withdrawal

Neither the "full blockchain solution" would, once the fraud protection and other safety checks are added.

Which is the point I've made.

You can't simultaneously claim the benefits of blockchain being without protection, and respond to the criticism about the dangers with "it's just a toolkit, you can add protection in layers above". Or you can, but you're claiming the pros on both sides of a XOR feature set.

Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by gitfan86 on Thursday April 28, 2022 @06:40AM (#31190915)
Correct, crypto is great when you need an append only database with no root password.

Outside of that use case crypto is a speculative investment vehicle. Maybe BTC will replace gold as a store of value. But that is just speculation.

Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by Veen on Thursday April 28, 2022 @06:17AM (#31190783)
Yes, and if it was promoted as a "decentralized ledger of transactions" it would be fine and almost no one would have heard of it. But it's often aggressively promoted as a replacement for traditional currencies and banking with many benefits over the old-fashioned models, ignoring the fact that those models account for many issues that blockchain does not. There's a reason banks and economies evolved in the way they did.
Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by Grustaf on Thursday April 28, 2022 @05:50AM (#31190588)
This is technically true, but crypto currency does make the most sense when there is no middle-man. If you merely replace the backend of the banking system with a blockchain, nobody would care.
Re:Blockchain Is Dangerous Nonsense by TomSwirly on Thursday April 28, 2022 @08:27AM (#31191657)
> Blockchain is just a decentralized ledger of transactions.

Well, so is Git!

The big difference is that the blockchain requires all transactions to appear on all nodes, and has a wildly expensive and slow consensus phase.

Thing is, these two features provide great negative utility for the average person and no positive utility at all unless you are an anonymous entity wanting to transact with other anonymous entities with no legal framework at all.