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Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by lucius_verus on Monday April 25, 2022 @03:23PM (#31159447)
The bit about "following the law" was so poorly thought out. Musk's comments at TED made it seem like he both: (1) confused Bill of Rights guarantee that the government won't censor speech with some law that prohibits private companies from moderating speech on their platforms (not a thing) (2) failed to consider what it means to "follow the law" when your platform operates in multiple countries with incompatible laws. Do you comply with an authoritarian regime that demands you take down tweets (https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/24/22451271/police-india-rai...)? How about content that is specifically banned in some countries but not others, like Germany's strict hate speech laws (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/twitter-germany-nazis/)? These are actual problems Twitter has had to deal with, and I don't get the impression that Musk realizes how complicated it it is.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by sidibe on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:11PM (#31159924)
Noone could have known social media moderation could be hard! Just like in 2017 he had no way of knowing his cars wouldn't drive themselves cross country by 2018
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:44PM (#31163430)
How about we start with not banning US politicians?
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tigershark on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @02:47AM (#31164709)
Do you mean the one that attempted a coup and utterly failed, like all the things in his life? I don’t think there is another person in the entire world that managed to bankrupt not one but TWO casinos. And I think that you guys are very lucky that he didn’t succeed in his half-assed coup, otherwise you would help Russia instead of Ukraine, and would have become soon after that a bankrupt state with all the world against, same as Putin current track record.
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Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tigershark on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @03:20PM (#31171931)
Who would be “the left”? I’m not even American, in the last decade I never voted for “the left”, but I can see clearly that there was a failed coup in the US on the 6th of January. What is your proof that it wasn’t a failed coup when all the world could see a criminal president incite a mob to attack the Capitol to stop the process to transfer the power to the new president? There were people with weapons and with zip ties ready to subdue and kidnap elected officials to keep that criminal clown in power. Or do you need proof of all the failures of that incompetent individual in life, the only person in the world to bankrupt THREE (not two as I remembered) casinos?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:41AM (#31180475)
Yay, more people not from this country telling us about our business.

All Trump said was “give them hell”, which is the same thing the leftist say when they lose. Anybody that knows the American left knows this is purely political. They’re trying to smear him, charge him with a felony, so he can’t run again. That’s all this is.

Tell me this, had they succeeded in delaying the vote, then what?

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tigershark on Thursday April 28, 2022 @08:09PM (#31199795)
Are you serious?

“Had the rioters succeeded in preventing the certification, Raskin said, Trump "was prepared to seize the presidency" and likely declare martial law”

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-attempt-coup-be-focus...

But for you obviously Reuters is part of the left and fake news. Only Fox News, OAN and Russia Tv are the harbinger of “Truth”, better known in Russian as “Pravda”. I bet that you also approve of him congratulating Putin for his invasion and subsequent genocide…

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-...

“Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.”

You are incredibly lucky that he still doesn’t have power, otherwise the US would have helped Russia instead of Ukraine.

Hopefully all the traitors and Putin puppets will get what they deserve at some point, after this genocide is concluded.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Monday May 02, 2022 @08:15AM (#31234117)
> “Had the rioters succeeded in preventing the certification, Raskin said, Trump "was prepared to seize the presidency" and likely declare martial law”

Yes a democrat saying Trump was prepared to enact martial law. They’re clearly not biased.

> You are incredibly lucky that he still doesn’t have power, otherwise the US would have helped Russia instead of Ukraine.

How do you draw this conclusion? You know there’s a difference between saying someone’s smart and liking what they do? Here I’ll do it now: Biden’s request for a ministry of truth is genius. It’ll squash dissent and any non left leaning counter narrative.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by Breza on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:16AM (#31204169)
American here. President Trump lied about winning the election and upended our tradition of peaceful transitions of power. If he hadn't done that, there would have been no January 6 attack.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Monday May 02, 2022 @08:18AM (#31234157)
I didn’t see Trump fighting the transition. I saw a bunch of people pissed off at the lack of voter IDs expressing their point and taking it too far.

Now since you’re American, let’s play hypothetical. Had they destroyed the case, then what? If you actually think on the topic you’d realize a coup isn’t possible as you’d need some military force to provide law enforcement. So all this coup talk is just meaningless searching for a reason to ban him from elections. Given that it’s only one side that wants him out, this makes it very curious.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by Breza on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:01AM (#31366412)
What do you mean by "people pissed off at the lack of voter IDs"?

Donald Trump incited a group of people to launch a violent attack against the United States Capitol. That's not acceptable behavior.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @03:25PM (#31171983)
> It’s only the left that believes this.

Look, there are lots of things you can say about Rep. Cheney (R-WY), but that she is part of “the left” isn't even remotely one of the credible options.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:39AM (#31180449)
Do you know what a RINO is? Read the polls again. It’s just the left.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by Breza on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:17AM (#31204173)
Read National Review
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by cowmoo728 on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @05:46AM (#31165567)
What if a US politician purposely uses Twitter to incite an angry mob to commit a lynching? These are not just hypotheticals, internet platforms have driven mob violence at various scales in several countries.

"Just don't ban US politicians" seems like an unworkable solution.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @11:21AM (#31168584)
Please provide evidence, otherwise your statement is opinion. Not everybody believes the lie that Trump caused Jan 6
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by nmz on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @04:37PM (#31172846)
Indeed, and Charles Manson also did not commit and cause any murder.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:38AM (#31180439)
This is still not evidence.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by nmz on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @02:36PM (#31183989)
You are right, he did not directly "cause" it in the strictest sense. Never did he say "storm the capitol" however. as a smart person. you should understand implications and metaphors and that many people know how to tiptoe the line between plausible deniability. and some can even dance on it. if you want to ignore this, then its fine.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Thursday April 28, 2022 @01:42AM (#31189137)
So now we should hold people accountable for the things crazy people do based off what they say?

As a smart person you should realize this is insane.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by nmz on Saturday April 30, 2022 @02:52PM (#31218253)
See the charles manson example, also, most cults. idolatry usually leads to this. see also cult of personality.

Also, yes. That sounds incredibly sane. Especially if they say "Lets have trial by combat" and other such calls to violence.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Monday May 02, 2022 @08:09AM (#31234065)
Should we build the list of those on the left that need arrests then? Or are you willing to admit this is all to keep Trump from running again?
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by nmz on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:18PM (#31264667)
You asked a question, an answer with examples was provided, now you're changing the topic. We are done.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by jonny_eh on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @02:54AM (#31177072)
Trump admitted that he deserved responsibility: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kevin-mccarthy-donald-trump-tap...

We can quibble over details but it's far from being a "lie".

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:38AM (#31180433)
From Trump himself right?
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by cowmoo728 on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @03:26PM (#31184614)
I purposely did not mention Trump because I was not talking about Trump. I was referring to anti-muslim violence in BJP regions of India, and anti-Rohynga violence in Myanmar.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by tekknik on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @11:30PM (#31188445)
Yea meanwhile the rest of the US focuses on this one action alone.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by mlindner on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @07:19PM (#31174377)
He personally considers Twitter to be an extension of the "town square", so he wants to apply the laws of the government and turn them into the operational bylaws of Twitter. If the US government allows it in a "town square" then it's automatically allowed on Twitter.