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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by hammock on Sunday April 24, 2022 @10:34AM (#31144384)
That may work for a single generation. And the child soon grows up and meets reality. We are in a situation that has been developing for multiple generations

Edit: I agree with the replies and I’m not one for shirking personal responsibility to change your lot in life, nor not instilling an eye for opportunity in children. We are at a point where more may be necessary

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by psyc on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:35AM (#31145038)
I've thought about this a lot. It's so much more than "every generation thinks the next is awful" - that's too glib. By my count we've had 3 consecutive generations disaffected, disillusioned, and alienated. It's as if, figuratively speaking, everyone born after 1970 is a 'latchkey kid' because the parent archetype still hasn’t come home or sobered up yet.

Even still, it's best to teach kids that they have more say than any other individual about their own future, and that anything is possible. If you must teach them that the world is hostile, you must also teach them how to beat it. You wouldn't refrain from teaching them tiger evasion just because the tiger is probably going to get them.

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by s1artibartfast on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:12PM (#31146605)
Of course we can do more to have a robust economic ladder, but I dont think it is nearly as bleak and binary as people make it out to be. If you look at the actual data, there is still a lot up upward mobility. 60% of people who grow up in the bottom economic quintile improve their situation. [1] When thinking about the 40% that dont, there are a few notable facts:

20% of children in the bottom quintile dont graduate highschool.[2]

8% of men born into the bottom quintile are currently incarcerated.[3]

The traditional advice to children for how to be in the 60% that escape poverty is still true. Stay in highschool, stay away from drugs and crime, and go to college if possible. If poor children can do this, their chances of improving are actually quite good and not at all hopeless.

https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/images/...

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/High-school-graduation-r...

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/es_2018...

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by hammock on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:27PM (#31146755)
I disagree with the headline in that chart. What I see is 60% chance (i.e. more likely than not) of mobility up or down

Edit: you edited your post to be more than just a link

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by s1artibartfast on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:42PM (#31146912)
I added a lot of text to get my point across more clearly
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by hammock on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:49PM (#31146986)
The old Brookings Institute factoid is that the vast majority of the poor who graduate from high school; get a full-time job; don’t have a child before age 21 and get married before childbearing; move into the middle class.

You’ve provided some good research. Still I wonder how quickly it becomes outdated in today’s world.

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by s1artibartfast on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:25AM (#31144929)
No Solution to this massive multigenerational problem involves teaching children to not try and give up.