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Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by bobsmooth on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:16PM (#31090033)
Any plans to sell this or other mainboards separately?
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by nrp on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:17PM (#31090049)
Yep, the Mainboard is available as of today: https://frame.work/products/mainboard?v=FRANFG000A
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by bobsmooth on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:30PM (#31090218)
$400 for a powerful SBC with consumer-level support and drivers is a pretty great price.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by ac29 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:57PM (#31090986)
Sure but outside a laptop, laptop processors make much less sense. $400 gets you a motherboard and a desktop class processor that is significantly faster.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by yellowapple on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @11:28PM (#31092488)
That desktop motherboard and CPU likely requires more power, more cooling, and a bigger case.

I can see the "Framework motherboard as SBC" idea catch on for everything from set-top boxes (Steam Machines could make a comeback this way) to a poor man's blade server.

Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by toast0 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @12:38AM (#31092875)
Laptop processors make sense when space is at a premium, even if it's not a mobile device. But if space isn't an issue, desktop parts are usually a better choice; you can usually power limit desktop cpus to laptop levels if power usage or heat are a constraint.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by rrss on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @12:33AM (#31092850)
Being able to just buy something that works when you get it is a big plus IMO.

I’ve tried a few times in the last year and finding parts (that are actually available) for a sub- $500 small-form-factor system seems to be beyond my capabilities :)

Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by bubblethink on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:48AM (#31097746)
You need to get on to aliexpress for stuff like that. Plenty of router type boxes in that price range. Even lenovo, Dell, etc. sell some of these labelled as IoT gateways.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by antattack on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @08:45AM (#31096043)
"the average Core i5-1135G7 in our database is just as fast as the Core i5-10400H, Core i5-8300H, and Ryzen 7 3700U in multi-core benchmarks. The CPU acts even nicer when under single-core load, reaching similar heights as the Ryzen 7 5600X and Core i7-8700K."

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-1135G7-Processor...

Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by fomine3 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @12:30AM (#31092833)
It's better for SBC. Also laptop iGPU is better than desktop.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by moondev on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:32PM (#31090233)
Does the mainboard require the keyboard and screen modules to function?

Or could one fully use it "standalone" providing they supply their own usb-c power, memory, storage + external keyboard+monitor?

edit - looks like it can. the 3d printable case is slick, wish it was sold in the store: https://frame.work/blog/mainboard-availability-and-open-sour...

Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by nrp on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:38PM (#31090301)
It works fully standalone. Technically the only required items beyond the Mainboard itself are DRAM and a power source (USB-C or a Framework Laptop Battery).
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by eurleif on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:16PM (#31090643)
Any word on when the batteries will be available? They've been "coming soon" for a while. I imagine there's a supply chain issue behind that -- not faulting you guys -- but it's kind of painful still not being able to replace the one part of my laptop that's guaranteed to wear out.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by nrp on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:34PM (#31090777)
They are actually physically at our warehouse. The constraint has been the fulfillment logic to ensure they don't ship out from the warehouse by a method that allows air shipment. This is in progress, but in the meantime, we can manually take battery orders (an order containing only a battery) through our support form.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by yellowapple on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @11:46PM (#31092589)
> The constraint has been the fulfillment logic to ensure they don't ship out from the warehouse by a method that allows air shipment.

Best of luck with that. I know with UPS even the Ground services include the possibility of going via air if the destination is even slightly disconnected from the US mainland (and I distinctly recall having to program ERP/WMS logic for blocking ORM-D shipments entirely to the Catalina Islands' zip code because UPS would accept the ORM-D-marked package, try to load it on a plane for that last hop, and then send us nastygrams about us being the ones somehow at fault for it); I don't think FedEx is any different in that regard.

It's definitely possible to ship batteries via air, but it has to be marked air cargo only and the fees are probably too steep to be worthwhile unless you're shipping a bunch at a time.

Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by moondev on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:24PM (#31091213)
This inspired me to start tinkering on my framework laptop. Is there an integrated power switch onboard somewhere? I couldn't find one so I still needed to use the fingerprint reader connected to the input cover.
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by nrp on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:40PM (#31091355)
In the top left corner of the Mainboard there is a small button labelled "SW1".
Re:Framework Laptop Mainboard by delusional on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:22PM (#31090125)
When you select the different models of mainboard the order of the "Included", "Specs", and "Additional Information" options switch places. Just a minor UI thing.