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Re:Single mom sues coding boot camp over job placement rates by aunty_helen on Friday April 15, 2022 @07:46PM (#31047371)
We all know the tech hiring process is broken and bad at picking performant individuals.

In the time you have available, under the conditions you have the candidates, I don't think I would be able to determine competency or even personality traits.

In a 4 week segment that I taught I would start to form opinions of students after ~6 hours of interaction with them. Sometimes arrogance was just nerves, expectations were super malleable and not necessarily deeply embedded.

Competence is almost completely separated from course completion / rate of completion. Effort applied isn't a great indicator either (although slightly better than the other two).

I would recommend if you want to find great candidates, teach a bootcamp. There's literally the top 10% going through that can just be picked off. I hired one of the 3 brightest I taught and the other two I primed for when I have hiring budget.

Re:Single mom sues coding boot camp over job placement rates by metadat on Friday April 15, 2022 @07:59PM (#31047489)
"Just pick the cream off the top, even though you're supposed to be their instructor."

Because that's totally moral and ethical? No conflict of interest at all. What a neat hunter trick. Also, tell them you're their fairy auntie, that'll disarm the marks even more.

Re:Single mom sues coding boot camp over job placement rates by aunty_helen on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:22PM (#31047654)
Sorry, can you explain the conflict here and who or what it's conflicting with? I don't think you've thought this out or thought about it from the point of view of the students.
Re:Single mom sues coding boot camp over job placement rates by 29083011397778 on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:06PM (#31048528)
Your recommendation was to teach a bootcamp to find applicants. This, in my mind, reads like a combined internship / interview that the applicant pays the potential employer to partake in.
Re:Single mom sues coding boot camp over job placement rates by aunty_helen on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:49PM (#31049287)
OK, that's not what I intended. Teaching a bootcamp is pretty full on commitment so using it solely as a hiring funnel would see you ousted via feedback scores pretty quickly if you weren't delivering on the learning aspect.

The way I see it, and I'm open to being wrong about this, is that people that join a bootcamp are doing so to find a job. If at the end of the course I shoulder tap the best students I've had and we connect on linkedin (or they make the request) and then we end up entering into some kind of internship / jr position, I can only see that as a good thing.

The dev gets a job, I get good staff, the course gets their vague job placement goals met and at the end of the day, software gets written.

The only people I see being disadvantaged is others in the market for a dev. But that's not going to keep me up at night.