Lol, world's lamest club. Ask one of those super well-rounded Comp Sci guys to write a join query in SQL or create a pleasant user interface or build a modestly robust CI pipeline and see what happens.

This is a weird generalization, I know lots of CS grads who can do those things and have done them professionally. Are you actually suggesting that CS grads can’t write sql queries due to their education?

But you didn't think it was weird that "aunty_helen" above me claimed "the club" of all Comp Sci grads are smarter and more well-rounded than all other practitioners?

>even elec engineers who do a fair bit of coding aren't as well rounded as someone who has a degree in CompSci / Soft Eng.

Goes both ways, mate. I've always been shocked by (even very experienced) CompSci guys' absolute inability to create a simple state machine. Keep shit orthogonal, guys!

Same thing, but to a lesser extent, when it comes to timing constraints.

Exactly, I did a bit of work in a jet engine test cell as an asside to my main coding duties. The elec eng that I worked under had state machines and labview as far as the eye could see. I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I was relied upon for designing anything. But debugging / technician duties I was fine, hook an oscilloscope up to that engine? Help with thermocouple calibration? No problems.

One thing I will mention though, I've always found elec engineers to have a higher work rate that software devs. Always.