Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by deepsun on Thursday April 14, 2022 @02:53PM
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Don't compare your experiences with Ukraine. They fight a very different war, on their own territory (often their own cities). They literally defending their families, no less.
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Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by dumpsterdiver on Thursday April 14, 2022 @07:58PM
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> Don't compare your experiences with Ukraine.
Why would you tell someone not to compare two things just because those things are different? What would be the point of making comparisons at all if everything was the same? You would already know the result.
Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by deepsun on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:14AM
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Good point. I meant "those are different, so your (their) experiences don't apply there".
Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by kodah on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:46PM
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The circumstances are not that different. The people of Afghanistan (by the time I arrived) were trying to defend their homes and communities from Taliban incursion that the US had partially reinvigorated by overthrowing their government (in that it made them worse, not that we created them which is common misinterpretation). The history of Afghanistan puts this kind of stuff pretty plain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom#The...
I do understand there is a wide knowledge gap that HN visitors have about Afghanistan, but please try to understand better.
Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by sumedh on Thursday April 14, 2022 @08:50PM
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> They literally defending their families, no less.
So the Taliban were not defending their families?
Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by imbnwa on Thursday April 14, 2022 @07:28PM
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No, he's saying Americans should not be committed to fight for Ukraine.
Re:Americans’ views on the war reveal a striking generationa...
by deepsun on Friday April 15, 2022 @05:21AM
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But there's one quirk to the story: US has signed up for it on December 5, 1994:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Securit...
Too bad that document was very high-level, without specific procedures, timelines and liabilities listed in case of a breach. But nevertheless, it's a very real and legal grounding for fighting for Ukraine.