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Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by spamizbad on Thursday April 14, 2022 @09:32AM (#31026730)
You raise a good point that does make me wonder: why isn’t there more pressure from free speech advocates to liberalize moderation on HN?
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by EL_Loco on Thursday April 14, 2022 @09:52AM (#31027011)
Because moderation here works quite well and they usually aren't the ones being moderated. Like someone wrote earlier in this thread, why aren't the free speech advocates using less HN to debate hacker/tech stuff and using more 8chan or something?
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by bnralt on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:54AM (#31027809)
> Because moderation here works quite well

I think that probably stems mostly from Hacker News avoiding controversial subjects in general. When they do slip through, the moderation can be pretty bad, particularly when it comes to new accounts. I've seem innocuous comments shadowbanned for voicing fairly milquetoast heterodox opinions (with shadowbanning in general being a pretty unpleasant action). Usually that isn't an issue with accounts that have been here for a long time, but since Hacker News doesn't allow people to delete comments, you have to be comfortable with having that comment tied to you for decades to come (not always the safest thing in this environment).

The whole thing ends up exerting a chilling effect on alternative opinions.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by P_I_Staker on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:00AM (#31027135)
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Discourse on HN is a breath of fresh air compared to reddit, where everything is a knockdown, dragout deathmatch.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by moduspol on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:08AM (#31027246)
If the moderation here starts banning / shadow-banning / hiding prominent voices that run counter to HN's politics, they will.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by spamizbad on Thursday April 14, 2022 @12:21PM (#31029078)
Assuming the content is the same: why is censoring a prominent voice worse than censoring someone less well-known? Prominent voices inherently have greater platform access, professional clout, etc. Whereas lesser-known figures do not have such privileges and are therefor more greatly impacted by censorship.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by moduspol on Thursday April 14, 2022 @12:57PM (#31029671)
Prominence just makes it tougher for the platform to avoid ambiguity in their justifications. Some moderation is valid but other times it can be too much. None of us have the time to spend personally reviewing the claims of every contributor who feels like they were treated unfairly.

We see this with Twitter now. People complain about various tweets being blocked, and there's always a "back-and-forth" about how Tweet A is against their guidelines but somehow Tweet B isn't. But when they outright ban (e.g.) Donald Trump, there's no ambiguity any more. The discussion moves beyond the minutia of spam / bot handling and into something more concrete.

Though you're right: censorship of those with smaller voices is at least as problematic. We just all ultimately have limited resources available and focusing on the more clear-cut examples is more likely to be successful.

Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by unethical_ban on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:18AM (#31027366)
As someone who sees dead comments, the moderation here is pretty damned good.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by AuryGlenz on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:29AM (#31027519)
I’ve not noticed a political slant to moderation here. The primary aim seems to just be keeping things civil.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by TigeriusKirk on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:33AM (#31027578)
This site self-selects. People who think the moderation is good stay, people who think it is bad leave. There are plenty of alternatives to this site, you can easily find one that suits your needs. It's not an effective monopoly like the big social media giants.
Re:Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private by saagarjha on Thursday April 14, 2022 @09:37AM (#31026796)
Relevant username ;)