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Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by pavlov on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:12PM (#31010813)
These models look backwards. They mine the past of what human imagination created and produce passable composites that lack individual expression. The more they’re used, the more obvious the technique becomes and soon we’ll be tired of it.
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by nahuel0x on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:58AM (#31011907)
Did you see the results? And the ones from other models like Midjourney? Many of these images are not just "passable composites" but can easily trick you as creations by human artists of high caliber. And this is only the beginning. Human artists also mine the past of the collective eons of human imagination, unconsciously. We are in many ways products of the past influencing us from the time we are born. GPT-3, DALLE-2 and the likes are not only a marvelous and almost magical novel technique, but they also have very deep philosophical implications about what we are and what is the thing we call "culture" and "language".
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by randomsearch on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @03:40AM (#31012108)
Nitpick: human illustrators of high calibre, not artists, which usually implies conceptual art and requires capabilities AI does not yet possess.
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by jules on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @04:31AM (#31012376)
The stuff I see in contemporary art museums is only occasionally clearly better than what DALL-E produces. I don't think anyone would bat an eye if you put a selected collection of its images in a museum.
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by nahuel0x on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @04:06AM (#31012240)
Not so sure, check this twitter threads with conceptual images generated from abstract prompts: https://twitter.com/nickcammarata/status/1513977172888887302

https://twitter.com/nickcammarata/status/1511861061988892675

And as said before, this is only the beginning.

Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by ravi-delia on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:21PM (#31010861)
My guess is that human creativity is mostly just technical skill + taste + random noise. DALL-E has the first one, and we could probably approximate the last one, so the middle is the only one that needs work. It feels like that's a similar issue to how GPT often ends up trailing off. Maybe some kind of improved attention would work? Or an improved version of the sampling trick?
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by mlyle on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @01:49AM (#31011584)
Human curation is where you get the taste from.

As far as something to play with to get interesting ideas, and to take a first few cuts at implementing them, DALL-E is great. Then let's bring the human's technical skill and ability at curation into the mix.

Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by gfodor on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @11:52PM (#31011050)
This was obviously the case for previous models. DALL-E 2 seems different - I’ve seen a few outputs that seem like genuinely novel creative artistic works.
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by jazzyjackson on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @01:47AM (#31011574)
"Originality is the art of hiding your source"

Harry Roolaart

Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by dgb23 on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @03:22AM (#31012017)
They are quite obviously similar to artistic work because they copy, mix and match stuff that artists have done.
Re:Playing with DALL-E 2 by gfodor on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:43AM (#31015244)
When I say genuinely novel I mean genuinely novel. A trained artist can take a prompt from a person and integrate all they know from art and make something that fundamentally advances both. DALL-E appears capable of this form of creativity.