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Re:Today I asked a bank for a conventional mortgage and they... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:12AM (#31000283)
> Hilarious when the banks give out NINJA loans in 2006 and everyone complains about their crappy lending standards, then banks reject mortgage applications and the same folks are up in arms that they didn't just approve on the spot.

I don't follow. What is humorous about saying loans should do verification and that this guy has enough income demonstrated over multiple years to qualify for a loan? There is no contradiction there.

Re:Today I asked a bank for a conventional mortgage and they... by refurb on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:19AM (#31000333)
Yes there is, the guy's tweet showed his AGI per year - nothing more. No indication of source. Check his prior tweets - he wrote e-books, he mentioned how much his income fluctuates. Those are all red flags for typical mortgage lenders.

He got rejected because banks cater to certain types of customers. If his income was all W2 statements and clearly 100% salary he'd be fine. But it's not.

Hell, even trying to get a loan based on an AGI where 50% is a performance based bonus can be hard. That will be discounted heavily since there is no guarantee you'll make that much money next year.

Re:Today I asked a bank for a conventional mortgage and they... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:39PM (#31008546)
It's only a contradiction if you treat lending standards as a single measurement of strictness, one number that goes up and down.

Claim A is that they're being too strict about type of income. Claim B was that they were being too loose about amount of income. It's rational to believe both claims at the same time.

Re:Today I asked a bank for a conventional mortgage and they... by refurb on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @09:41PM (#31010317)
Claim B is not being "too strict" it's being "strict", which is logically the solution to Claim A "too loose with lending standards".
Re:Today I asked a bank for a conventional mortgage and they... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @10:15PM (#31010528)
> Claim B is not being "too strict" it's being "strict"

It's a spectrum, so it doesn't matter what a particular level is called. Claim A wants a reduction in one type of strictness, Claim B wants an increase in a different type.

> which is logically the solution to Claim A "too loose with lending standards".

The idea, for someone making both claims, is that they are being strict about the wrong things.

Being strict about income source is NOT a solution to being loose about income amount.

The mortgage crisis wasn't caused by giving too many loans to high-income contractors.