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Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by lrem on Monday April 11, 2022 @04:38PM (#30994650)
It _really_ depends on the distances and sizes of the cities you're going to. Paris-London train is about 3 hours, which is likely less than you'll spend on getting to+from an airport. Paris-Berlin on the other hand is miserable, unless you love trains.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by gpvos on Monday April 11, 2022 @05:42PM (#30995467)
Or unless you take a night train. Get in in the evening, sleep most of the way and wake up at your destination. That can actually save you time compared to a flight, or be a lot more comfortable than, e.g., getting up at 4 AM to take a flight to a meeting in the morning somewhere.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by lrem on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @12:55AM (#30998775)
When I looked at what map finds, there were only connections with two or three transfers. That doesn't sound like a comfortable night.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by gpvos on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:02AM (#31000215)
I was speaking more generally, sorry; there is currently no daily Paris-Berlin night train (and I guess the weekly Russian train is suspended). The most reasonable connection seems to be: Paris 19.04 (ICE 9557) 22.17 Mannheim 23.47 (Nightjet 470) 07.38 Berlin, with some time to drink a nightcap in Mannheim, but I can see how that won't work for everyone. You can also leave Paris at 17.55 and change more comfortably in Karlsruhe with maybe a late dinner. In the reverse direction you'll have an unpleasant change in the early morning though.

In daytime, there are a few options with only one change, but you'll sit in a train for 8 hours or so, which may not be your thing.

In general, https://seat61.com/ has good tips.

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by mywittyname on Monday April 11, 2022 @05:21PM (#30995250)
This is exactly my point, trains can't compete with point-to-point travel at 500mph. So injecting a bunch of padding on either side of flights is the best way of making train travel more appealing.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by smcl on Monday April 11, 2022 @05:48PM (#30995543)
Those points are usually fairly far outside of their respective cities though, to be fair. Planes are always going to be preferable for long journeys, London-Istanbul is a trip only big train fans would plan to take by rail. But I can take some really nice direct train journeys where I am - Budapest, Berlin, Munich, Vienna, Belgrade and more. And since I end up in the city centre it's usually a quick tram or subway to where I'm staying, or hopping another train onwards to a smaller town. And travelling on the train with friends and a beer is really pleasant :-)
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by room271 on Monday April 11, 2022 @05:01PM (#30994972)
2hrs 16 min is the usual time for London to Paris. So much quicker and nicer than flying all round really.