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Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by jayd16 on Monday April 11, 2022 @03:55PM (#30993941)
This is Apple UX in a nutshell. Hidden power tools are not intuitive.
Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by Tagbert on Monday April 11, 2022 @04:10PM (#30994186)
In part it is about progressive complexity. The simple things are exposed, more complex options require extra effort to access. Certainly there are times when it would be nice to make it easier to discover the more advanced features but there will always be a tension between keeping defaults simple for new users and exposing advanced features for the more serious users. Often they do it correctly but sometimes there are misses.
Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by lwkl on Monday April 11, 2022 @07:08PM (#30996350)
How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way.

I'd argue a lot of power user feature are more accessible on macOS than on Windows. The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts. How are you supposed to find them on Windows?

I think people see macOS as more intuitive because it doesn't offer as much customization and is relatively consistent compared to Windows. Also it doesn't have as many nested menus. The system settings on macOS go maybe three levels deep while on Windows you can go at least 5 or six levels deep if not more. Now guess which one will feel more intuitive?

The downside is you have to install some third-party tools if you want some features. But I prefer that to a lot of bloat.

Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by diffeomorphism on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @02:56AM (#30999492)
> How is this Apple UX specific? Windows UX and Linux UX work the same way.

Meanwhile the post just below yours: "I have been using macs for 9 years and never knew ...". So, no. They don't. "Power user" things are much less discoverable on macs.

Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by FeepingCreature on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:05AM (#31000233)
In KDE, you discover features by trawling the settings. :-)

"[x] Enable FooBar mode" oh hey, this tool has a FooBar mode!

In my experience, almost the first thing I do when trying a new program is having a look through the settings.

Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by jayd16 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @08:45PM (#31009949)
>The shortcuts and gestures for macOS can be found in the system settings and you can change the shortcuts.

Can they? Where can I find the shortcut to copy the current path in Finder?

Re:Impressions from a first-time Mac user by _aavaa_ on Monday April 11, 2022 @06:02PM (#30995662)
We can argue about them being intuitive or not, but at least they exist.