Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by elil17 on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:31PM
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I think execution is absolutely wrong and never morally justifiable. However I don’t see why execution + organ harvesting is worse than execution alone.
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Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by duxup on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:35PM
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It certainly could provide some perverse motivations.
Any effort to stop executions now includes the fact that potential donors recipients will die.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by kaba0 on Monday April 11, 2022 @03:07AM
(#30985585)
It supposes that not enough organs are in circulation.
Even with the opt-out donation model of some European countries they usually have surprisingly short waiting lists for most organs, as unfortunately plenty of accidental deaths occur every day.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by throwanem on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:34PM
(#30979453)
There's a perverse incentive, especially if medical tourism also exists.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by nomay on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:41PM
(#30979555)
The Chinese jail system is as corrupt as you can think, since many connected people would like to take advantage of their connections and noboby wants to deny them.
An inmate's death sentence can be commuted to as less as 12 years after this process. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AD%99%E5%B0%8F%E6%9E%9C
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by zuppy on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:35PM
(#30979462)
because it can be an incentive to kill people for money, due to corruption.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by ComradePhil on Sunday April 10, 2022 @05:43PM
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Where's the outrage and incentive debates when fully formed human babies are "aborted" and sent to be burned for biofuel? All done by for-profit companies all the way through. I definitely didn't see it here in HackerNews.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by kaba0 on Monday April 11, 2022 @03:11AM
(#30985607)
What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know what a 20 weeks fetus look like? And wtf, why would anyone burn some 30g thingy for biofuel? Especially that plenty of abortions are simply a heavier than usual blood flow, not a surgical operation of getting a baby out of someone, smh.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by z3ncyberpunk on Monday April 11, 2022 @12:19PM
(#30990956)
You do realize woke politicians are trying to make it legal to abort an infant after it was born right? For any reason..
At the same time they are sexualizing and grooming kids.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by kaba0 on Monday April 11, 2022 @01:39PM
(#30992192)
I would like to see a source on any of that. Something that is not 4chan-level…
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by clamprecht on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:36PM
(#30979473)
It sets up weird incentives.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by ourmandave on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:41PM
(#30979553)
It violates individual autonomy.
It creates a motivation to find the innocent guilty.
Never underestimate how absolutely low someone will go to make a buck.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by dennis_jeeves1 on Sunday April 10, 2022 @06:43PM
(#30982464)
As they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by belter on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:40PM
(#30979532)
They were still alive...
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by alephnan on Sunday April 10, 2022 @01:51PM
(#30979654)
It was an execution...
Re:Chinese inmates had hearts or lungs removed during execut...
by tempestn on Sunday April 10, 2022 @02:02PM
(#30979785)
Exactly. I agree with the perverse incentives involved in harvesting their organs at all. But I see no difference between anesthetyzing someone and removing their heart, and giving them a lethal injection. The former may well be less painful. (Strongly against the death penalty in any form.)