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Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by IAmGraydon on Sunday April 10, 2022 @12:42PM (#30978810)
This article states that the most recent measurement agrees with others over the last decade. That is simply not true.

https://non-trivial-solution.blogspot.com/2022/04/do-we-have...

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by eightysixfour on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:19PM (#31022355)
According to the chart here: https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/higher-w-boson-mass-...

It seems to align with measurements from:

* D0 I

* CDF I

* OPAL

* ALEPH

I do not know what refinements happened between D0 1/2, or CDF 1/2.

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by rob_c on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:27PM (#31022408)
Potentially just a refinement in the strategy of the analysis and/or more compute/time. Not the first time a measurement like this was off due to poor blinding...
Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by lupire on Sunday April 10, 2022 @04:27PM (#30981370)
> this finally the sign of new physics, which we all have been hoping for?

I don't understand this mindset? Why (aside from creating jobs) is it good to discover that the universe is more complicated than we knew, or that we were wrong?

To me, what we want in "new physics" is explanations for unexplained phenomena, or resolutions to know problems/inconsistencies (like quantum vs gravity), or emergent effects that less to interesting applications.

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by ashildr on Sunday April 10, 2022 @05:43PM (#30982022)
> Why (aside from creating jobs) is it good to discover that the universe is more complicated than we knew, or that we were wrong?

Because this would give us hints to new degrees of freedom in the current models that seem to contradict each other but otherwise work extremely well in their respective their domains. Finding a crack in those hermetically closed models would be wonderful.

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by macintux on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:42PM (#31022499)
When you know you have bugs in your code (or, in our case, an incomplete understanding of physics) finding new, unexpected behavior gives you new ways to identify the problem.
Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by gus_massa on Sunday April 10, 2022 @06:50PM (#30982529)
There are a lot of different teams.

Some teams are working trying to resolve the Quantum Gravity problem. I doubt this is useful for them, at least for now.

Other team are working in particle colliders. They get a Nobel price if they discover a new particle or a correction to the "Standard Model".

Hopefully both teams will meet somewhere in the middle. Perhaps a new experiment will give a hint about how to make quantum gravity work. Perhaps a new theory of quantum gravity will predict a result that can be tested in a particle collider. Don't expect this to be soon.

And there are many other teams that are working in one of the N-2 areas of Physics that are unrelated and their research is not affected by a Quantum Gravity theory or modification to the "Standard Model".

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by Schroedingersat on Thursday April 14, 2022 @01:25AM (#31023687)
We know the standard model is wrong. It explicitly calls itself out.

New physics are the only thing that can guide discovery of the correct answer.

Re:Scientists are worried about the W Boson: 'Something is a... by nomel on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:51PM (#31022167)
> is explanations for unexplained phenomena, or resolutions to know problems/inconsistencies

simply can't happen without

> is it good to discover that the universe is more complicated than we knew, or that we were wrong