Hmm. While I agree with the premise here I decided to track down some of these articles by putting some of them into a search engine.

I found a subset of this list here, with links to sources. But most of the sources aren't LA Times: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-e...

But others, I couldn't find at all:

- 4G cell tower causes cancers.

I'm not sure what to think about this list. I would be extremely interested in the source articles, if they're actually out there.

I did say “some” but LA Times too did chime in with The Guardians (UK).

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cellphone-5g-health-2...

You said "these are some of..." not "some of these are...".

"X1, X2, X3 are some of Y" means that {X1, X2, X3} is a subset of Y. "Some of X1, X2, X3 are Y" means that {X1, X2, X3} intersects Y. But you said the former!

Smart Aleck!

Are you sure about those headlines? A Google search for 'latimes "Volcano caldera ready to wipe out civilization"' [0] reveals two hits - both of them previous comments of yours on this site.

[0] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Volcano+caldera+ready+to+...

Did I say LA Times did all of those headlines? Nope.

Yes, that's exactly what you claimed.

> Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations:

My XOR logic chip needs replacing.

While some of those were hard misses, maybe were indeed possible scenarios if nothing had been done. Since the 60s governments world wide have enacted progressively stricter regulations for industry emissions, industrial waste treatment, car emissions, appliance efficiency, CFC use, car fuel chemistry, etc etc. We would be in a much, much worse state if nothing had been done. And yet some of those are happening now. Permanent snowy mountains are now bare; insects are dying at alarming rates; yearly record temperatures, both harsher summers and harsher winters.

It's not news that newspapers use sensational headlines to sell more.

How did you compile this 14 min after the article was posted?

That account copypastes it into climate threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30258365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27447861

Is there a way to flag accounts that copypaste talking points into these kinds of topics?

Click the post's timestamp and tap "flag" and/or email concerns to [email protected].

I know about flagging posts, and that account's posts of this guff have been flagged before.

I asked about flagging accounts

Then the second half of my response gave you the answer.

"Quick! How do we shut this down!? The narrative must be preserved!"

You "flood the zone with crap" to shut it down. And that's what's happening. The above coppypasta is a prime example.

Yes. It is called a “downvote”

Meanwhile I got 27 up votes.

Pitch in, accordingly to your needs.

Why are you conveniently ignoring everyone asking you for sources?

And maintained by me, an avid reader of printed newspapers to this day.

I'd love to see copies/scans of all of these articles. That would make for fascinating reading.

Yeah, probably should do a web page containing all these news snippets.

It's mostly copy-pasted from this article:

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-clima...

Like it was pre-prepared. Climate change articles get quickly jumped on here with energetic negativity and are often flagged out. It's fascinating to watch; but a sign of a healthy debate, it is not.

Lived in Los Angeles Greater Area pretty much most of my life.

Still get that newspaper delivered to my doorstep from way over there.

Yeah, I am skeptical.

You are mixing in random headlines that were not the results of my scientific consensus (cellphones and cancer?) and headlines that warned of the bad possibilities if nothing was done. The fact that scientific and other advancements have helped avert some of the issues we were warned about shouldn’t be misinterpreted as a failure of the warning but the opposite.

The only source I can find on this list are previous HN comments. Searching for some of them is turning up nothing outside of that. Do you have a link to these, or a better search option than Google or the latimes.com's search?

EDIT: Also found a screenshot of the list on Reddit. Seems it's been bouncing around for a few years, never with any supporting evidence.

I picked one of these arbitrarily, “Manhattan underwater by 2015”, and couldn’t find any evidence of the LA Times ever having claimed that, but I did find that people have been claiming, incorrectly, that the ABC (Australia) said that.

So unless you post sources for these, people should assume you are a troll.

So, I just choose one example (1971), because most claims about 1970's Ice Age articles are overblown. I found no LATimes articles with the title "New Ice Age coming by 2020 or 2030" There were five times that "New Ice Age" was used in print, and of those 40% seem to be referencing an upcoming artistic event's theme (Holiday on Ice).

The main article about an ice age in 1971 would have been on October 24th, 1971. The front page of the LA Times did indeed feature the words "Ice Age" on the bottom of the front page in the "articles inside" block. It did not use the words "New", "coming", "by", "2020" or "2030" in the article title.

I would ask for sources on your list.

It doesn't look like the la times ever used the headline "Everyone will disappear in a Cloud of Blue Steam in", the only results in google was for an Alex Jones book or something

Ignoring the fact that cherry picking the worst headlines says little about the average quality of journalism, I started looking into these claimed headlines and found that many were not in the LA Times, some were not headlines (they seem to be from the article text), and some don't seem to exist as described (like "5G cellular towers causes cancers" and "Volcano caldera ready to wipe out civilization").

I'm not a fan of CEI, but you can see scans of some of these articles here: https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-poca...

You said “all”.

I said …”some” …

The word "all" never appeared in my post.

You wrote "Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines". A reasonable person would understand that quote to say that the headlines are from the LA Times, but it's only some of the many bad headlines the LA Times has had.

Age old mistake of extrapolating current trends indefinitely into the future.

I remember reading something somewhere in the 1990s that the entirety of New Orleans was going to be underwater by 2020 and the only way you'd be able to visit Bourbon Street was by boat.

Strictly speaking, that’s not wrong: it’s only through the Herculean efforts of the army corps of engineers that New Orleans is as unsubmerged as it is.

Don’t forget Hurricane Harvey: we spent ~$170B cleaning that up. It’s never that we can’t undo climate at a small scale, it’s that doing so may bankrupt entire states in the process.

Strictly speaking, it is wrong: there are several areas of New Orleans that have always been above sea level, Bourbon Street being one of the areas.

Katrina, Harvey, Betsy, 1915, etc. New Orleans is still there. It's not under sea.

You might wan't to rethink your example here... You don't need a boat yet, but New Orleans has suffered incredibly in the last 20 years, both materially and spiritually, because of the hurricanes and flooding.

>You might wan't to rethink your example here...

I might not...

Katrina, Harvey, Betsy, 1915, etc. New Orleans is still there. It's not under sea like all the prophecies foretold.

I guess the human toll of all those things aren't really all that meaningful when it is not visually apparent to an outside observer. Which does make this a good example of what is going in general, you are right!

>I guess the human toll of all those things aren't really all that meaningful

Hilarious emotional appeal strawman. You can't even stay on topic after being proven wrong. Remember, New Orleans isn't underwater and it's past 2020.

>when it is not visually apparent to an outside observer.

I'm old enough to remember seeing all the pictures and videos of the aforementioned hurricanes. Don't project your ignorance on everyone else.

> Which does make this a good example

Yes, a good example of New Orleans still being there, all the highways are still there, the sports arenas are still there, there are over a million people that live there, etc.

Thank you for being so patient and kind. I am pretty slow in my thinking (low IQ), so it really helps when someone, point by point, explains to me why I am wrong in a compassionate and unassuming way. And I am glad I could entertain you with my stupidity along the way :).

I will work on not talking out of place, and not being so worried about climate change, but I do understand that I am in this position in the first place because of my moral and rational faults.

My best wishes to you and your loved ones, may you continue to find peace and stay dry (well, as you explained, you'll probably stay dry either way, still, the sentiment still stands).

Some what of crying wolf

News organizations designing headlines for attention does not undermine the data driven truth; resource consumption is real. Sorry the modeling techniques haven’t been as perfect as you’d prefer.

Your inability to be swayed by Anglo-gibberish is formidable but you’re a non-entity to me and I don’t have to optimize for your preferences.

Sit back down in your bubble and accept on a rock of 7 billion+ you are just one. TL;DR your evidence is insufficient and I’m likewise as unmoved by it as you are from your perspective.

Yes very big strong mtn man effort though cutting and pasting text to reiterate a repetitive rhetorical point as evidence of how stoic you are.

(yawn).

It’s a pet project of mine and a fun one at that (of many hobbies).

One might think you would also have sources to reference any of these articles (given it's your "hobby") but you're curiously silent when people point out most of these articles never got written.

The bandwidth is being spent toward making a web page of my news clippings.

Yes, I did have a big old yawn at your list.

Thanks for confirming you understood the sentiment.