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Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by neves on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:27AM (#30920231)
10.000 is very hard to attain every day. I walk a lot and just get this value in very active days.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by albrewer on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:55AM (#30920587)
Anecdata:

I recently visited Amsterdam with my wife. On the less active days, just leaving our room 3x a day for food and weed put us way over 10k steps every day. We were hitting 30k on our really touristy days. Now I'm back at my house in an American suburb and struggling to get 5k naturally.

From my point of view, the problem is most of the built environment caters toward cars and not enough toward outdoor living space.

Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by brimble on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:14PM (#30920879)
The damn 'burbs. Nothing to walk to, everything's been spread way too far apart. Maybe a park or neighborhood pool if you're lucky. Too much non-place taking up space between places is killer. Literally, given heart disease.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by JeremyStinson on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:27PM (#30925898)
You don't need a destination when the walk is the goal.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by NumberWangMan on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:51PM (#30928271)
I can only speak for myself but it's far easier, psychologically, for me to go out and walk somewhere when I have a goal besides just walking. While a destination is not necessary in the strictest sense, not having a reason besides exercise is a substantial barrier.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by JeremyNT on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:37PM (#30928216)
If you can walk to the places you need to get to, then you don't even need to go out of your way to hit the step goal.

It's a shame that we (Americans) don't build cities this way, instead requiring that we drive everywhere. It's bad for the environment as well as our health.

Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by nicbou on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @10:26AM (#30932326)
Yeah but the walk in those environments just sucks. Loud traffic, no sidewalks, nothing to look at. When I visit Canada, I always miss walking in the woods, because the paths just don't exist. In Germany they're literally everywhere.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by dorchadas on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:09PM (#30920801)
Is this in America? I found it much harder to get in American than I do now that I've moved to Ireland. I walk mostly everywhere (weather permitting) and rarely get below 10k a day. I'm actually closer to 12k a day, and 8 km. On the year so far I'm averaging over 14,400. And I wouldn't say I walk a tremendous amount -- just when I can (though I do enjoy it), sometimes with running in depending on weather and other things.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by TrueGeek on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:56AM (#30920600)
Working from home I find it nearly impossible. Even using a standing desk, using the bathroom on the other floor instead of the one near me, trying not to ignore my watch when it says to get up and walk, etc... I'll often end up with less than 2k steps.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by anonfornoreason on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:01PM (#30920676)
Take your work meetings on a pair of headphones while dialing in, instead of video conferencing in.

Take a fifteen walk once a day while sorting out your daily schedule, working on a hard problem, etc.

Personally, that cooped up feeling from being stuck inside all day is one of the reasons why I moved out of the city and onto some property. 30m of daily outside chores (work breaks, lunch breaks, replacement for a "commute") and I easily get 10k steps a day.

Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by dTal on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @02:50PM (#30923234)
>Personally, that cooped up feeling from being stuck inside all day is one of the reasons why I moved out of the city and onto some property.

As someone who moved from a city to a rural area over the pandemic and saw their exercise suffer massively, this rings oddly to me. In a city I was getting huge step counts because there were so many places to go, so much to see and do! Leaving the house was immediately rewarding. Out in the boondocks, sure there's plenty of space to walk, but there's nowhere you can feasibly walk to.

Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by TrueGeek on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @03:46PM (#30924007)
That actually helps, thank you. A lot of my meetings lately are non-video so I could easily take those while walking.

I'm working on moving into a city. The plan is to get rid of the car and I think that'll make a huge improvement in health.

Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by boppo1 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:00PM (#30924969)
Buy a collie. They LIVE for walks. Ours goes 3-4 miles a day. She cares about walks more than food. And she derives absolute joy from them. Just walking around new neighborhoods and she looks at me every day with sheer bliss during and after. Very motivating.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by gedy on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:21PM (#30920969)
The idea is you also have to walk for exercise, not just incidentally. I wfh and aim for two 2-3 mile walks a day and get in about 15000 steps. Takes about 1.5 hours out of my day but I'd just be zoning out watching a screen otherwise.
Re:Daily steps and all-cause mortality by giarc on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:03PM (#30920709)
Get a dog, 10k becomes very easy when you have to walk the dog a few kilometers every day.