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Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by simonh on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @03:48AM (#30916340)
If they thought the laptop was school property, then comparisons to wilful intrusion into someone’s house is hyperbolic, and no it wasn’t malicious. It would be more like if the cops had a valid warrant to track a suspects car, but installed the tracker in the wrong car by mistake.

Best to establish the facts first.

Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by carschno on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:02AM (#30917127)
Installing monitoring software (spyware) on a laptop that is owned by the school is legit only if you consider the student exactly that: a suspect. In that sense, your comment is spot-on.

Following that logic, the act itself does not seem malicious. However, the logic of seeing students as suspects is.

Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by sillysaurusx on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:20AM (#30918051)
I have a sort of extremist take on this: students are literally prisoners. The job of a high school is to keep students from harming each other, feed them, and occasionally teach them something.

It’s why one of the highest offenses is to leave school grounds during school. Ditto for prison.

In that light, of course students are suspects. They’re already guilty of not being adults. They’re not allowed to have jobs, or to decide what they want to learn, or any of the other things that make adults human.

I don’t know what to do about it, but recognizing it seems step one.

Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by tailspin2019 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:08AM (#30918478)
> students are literally prisoners

You're being downvoted, but I often felt exactly this way throughout my school years.

Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by Aeolun on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:30AM (#30918156)
> However, the logic of seeing students as suspects is.

Is it? I don’t think I know any high school student that hasn’t tried to muck with, or work around, the schools systems.

Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by hoseja on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @09:09AM (#30918492)
And "solving" that "problem" is not a good thing.
Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by simonh on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @07:06AM (#30917487)
That's fair, I'm not saying they are right to do it in that sense.
Re:Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't re... by boomlinde on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:36AM (#30917327)
> If they thought the laptop was school property, then comparisons to wilful intrusion into someone’s house is hyperbolic

So if you're renting an apartment from me, I am right to spy on your children with my ceiling bug?

> It would be more like if the cops had a valid warrant to track a suspects car, but installed the tracker in the wrong car by mistake.

The school is not a police force; nothing warrants their privacy intrusive surveillance of my children without my consent in the first place.