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Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by giantg2 on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:06PM (#30881358)
Are you saying that we understand the biological effects and their mechanisms for non-ionizing radiation exposure, or that we should be careful because we don't know all of them (specifically mechanisms)?
Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by ncmncm on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:14PM (#30881469)
In fact we don't understand their effects. And, we don't even understand what is important about details of the exposure. About all we do know is that modulation is critically important, and that certain modulations under certain conditions of very low power transfer have profound effects.

Ask literally any biologist whether you should expect to be able to calculate the effects on an organism of some stimulus using only physical formulas.

Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by alexvoda on Saturday April 02, 2022 @04:17AM (#30886672)
> About all we do know is that modulation is critically important, and that certain modulations under certain conditions of very low power transfer have profound effects.

Citation needed.

Seriously, the burden of proof is on you for such a statement.

And be precise, which modulations, which conditions, what effects.

"Certain" and "profound" are filler words in this situation. They mean nothing.

Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by Gnarl on Saturday April 02, 2022 @08:37AM (#30887759)
You may find this interesting on the topic of importance of modulation, polarization etc.: https://www.spandidos-publications.com/ijo/59/5/92
Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by hackernewds on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:34PM (#30882370)
It seems to me your contradicting the original posters comment. Or am I reading that wrong?
Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by ncmncm on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:44PM (#30882482)
I don't know who I might be contradicting.

We know pretty precisely how much of a microwave radiation exposure will be absorbed in various kinds of living tissue. We know that the mechanism of absorption is via induced nanoampere currents. We know with certaintly that those nanoampere currents will all end up, finally, as heat.

We don't know all of the effects of the nanoampere currents produced by that absorption, otherwise. We do know that induced nanoampere currents can, under certain circumstances, have profound biological effects.

Re:No increased risk of brain tumours for mobile phone users... by yolo69420 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @03:41AM (#30999735)
super late response, but I'm saying we understand. EM radiation from your router is just way too low energy to enact any changes in the atoms making up the molecules in you for even chemical let alone biological effects to start playing a role.

the only thing they can do is transfer some heat energy to you, orders of magnitude lower than your average light bulb in the office (certainly entirely incomparable to sunlight).