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Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by ars on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:50AM (#30876057)
> The plumbing is added to the outside of the house

Does it not freeze in Europe? If they did that in Flint the pipes would freeze in the winter.

Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by Cthulhu_ on Friday April 01, 2022 @04:01AM (#30876113)
Glad you pointed it out, there was something that didn't quite add up there. Yes it freezes in europe, those pipes would get destroyed if they were on the outside.

It's probably easier to replace pipes in an older European house anyway; less insulation / less layered walls, less things embedded in concrete, sometimes even wood beam floors. I lived in a >100 year old house that was renovated at some point, newer pipes and electricity was put up against the walls, then a layer of drywall was applied everywhere to make things look tidy.

Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by jansan on Friday April 01, 2022 @04:48AM (#30876343)
I am not aware of pipes outside the house here in Germany. Maybe he is referring to southern Europe?
Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by naoqj on Friday April 01, 2022 @06:34AM (#30876792)
I live in southern Europe and there are no pipes outside the house either.
Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by Dma54rhs on Friday April 01, 2022 @08:51AM (#30877608)
Not in the east either, they would get frozen very quick.
Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by WalterBright on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:19PM (#30882212)
There are lots of ways to stop pipes from freezing. A couple are mentioned here.

Another way is to put the valve below the freeze line in the ground. Opening the valve to the water would close a drain valve in the pipe leading from it to the faucet, and closing the valve would open the drain valve.

I have a setup like this at my house, although the two valves are not linked. It works fine.

Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by chmod775 on Friday April 01, 2022 @04:03AM (#30876121)
That can probably be solved with some insulation and a variety of optional ways to add heat sources.
Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by colechristensen on Friday April 01, 2022 @11:32AM (#30879210)
It really wouldn’t. Unless by insulation and heat sources you mean… by putting the pipes inside the house.

Otherwise you’re just building a house around your outside pipes.

No amount of insulation is going to help your pipes outside overnight under a certain temperature. The water isn’t moving because you aren’t using any of it.

We had some pipes inside under the floor of an old addition of an older farmhouse which regularly froze despite being inside, our wellhouse had hundreds of watts of heating. There’s no chance of pipes exposed outside in a northern US climate not freezing.

Re:High schoolers create filter to remove lead in water by chmod775 on Friday April 01, 2022 @06:41PM (#30884056)
Insulating and heating outside pipes is a solved problem and adding a small layer of insulation around a pipe with electrical heating elements is much cheaper and energy efficient than insulating+heating an entire house. Short term anyhow.

Keyword is "self-regulating pipe heating cable".

I don't know why you're making it out like it's rocket science and with such confidence.